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5th August 2005, 12:45 PM #1New Member
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Newbie and a couple questions
Okay, I'm new to the forum and haven't gone through all the archived discussions yet, so my questions might already have been answered. If that is the case, please don't rout my head off!
Okay - first, I'm building my workshop and want to get a new router. The one I have was built just a few years after the dinosaurs went extinct. I know that eventually, I'll probably own several routers, but I am going forward with the expectation that my early work in routing will be solely off the router table. Hence, a good fixed router is what I'm looking for. My question - how does the Bosch 1617EVS measure up for router table work? Its 2 1/4 HP, gets good reviews, but I'd like to hear from "real people" who actually USE routers!
Second - yep, you guessed it. The router table! LOL ... like I said, I'm a newbie. I've been reading several articles on router tables and the more experienced folks like to build their own. The tables on the market that I can afford are dinky little things and what I read in one article really struck my fancy. It talked about using a router table to build a router table. That is, buying a decent router table (but one that costs less than the national debt) and sinking the entire thing into a nice sturdy table. I don't know though. It might just make more sense to get a nice table saw and put a router table extension on the table saw. Any suggestions either way in this area?
Thanks! BTW ... the threads that I have read so far are great!
John
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5th August 2005, 12:55 PM #2
G'day John.
Fixed base routers aren't very common over here in Australia, so you might have trouble finding anyone here who has one. There are a couple of US members who might be able to help but you might have more luck with that query on a US forum.
Regarding the table, one advantage of the tablesaw extension idea is that you can use your tablesaw's fence for the router as well. Have a look at a few designs here and other places on the web and you'll get an idea of what you like. There really doesn't have to be a lot to a router table. A flat top, a fence, and some way of suspending the router underneath is all you really need. The rest of the stuff is bells and whistles.
My setup is simply a bit of ply hung between the fence rails on my tablesaw. I used a Veritas round router base to mount the router and I use my tablesaw fence. I also have an Incra jig for the fancy stuff."I don't practice what I preach because I'm not the kind of person I'm preaching to."
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5th August 2005, 01:47 PM #3New Member
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G'Day yourself!
SilentC,
LOL ... it's been a while since anyone has said G'Day to me. My wife and I vacationed in Australia years back and we're dying to go back! Best vacation we ever had! Beautiful country and unbelievably nice people. We had many a fun night at the local pubs in the various cities we visited.
I'll try some of the US forums, but the AU forum looks like it has plenty for me to learn from!
Thx!
John
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5th August 2005, 01:49 PM #4
John, you need a good sense of humor here as everyone here teases everyone here.
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5th August 2005, 01:52 PM #5I'll try some of the US forums, but the AU forum looks like it has plenty for me to learn from!"I don't practice what I preach because I'm not the kind of person I'm preaching to."
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5th August 2005, 01:52 PM #6New Member
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A good sense of humor is a good thing
Bob,
Yeah, I didn't see anything poking me either way. As I said to SilentC, I figure I have a lot to learn from the Aussies! I saw some pretty darn good woodwork in the craft stores when I was there. Maybe it runs in the country?
John
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5th August 2005, 03:01 PM #7unbelievably nice people
By all accounts the best router for under a table is the Triton. http://www.triton.net.au/products/router_2.html
I believe that it's available in the US. If you do a search in the router forum you will find lots of discussion on it. I've got a Makita which works a treat.
Grunt
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5th August 2005, 03:08 PM #8
G'day John,
I'd agree with Grunt about the router. I've had a Hitachi TR12 for some years and whilst very pleased with it, the recent purchase of the Triton router was definitely a step ahead. The thing I like most (and I use it mostly in the Triton router table) is that all the bit changes happen above the table. Its got good fine adjustment, good speed range & is generally a pleasure to use.
Happy hunting
Keith
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5th August 2005, 03:09 PM #9
Nice People? Sure!
Except for sydneysiders who need to be told by every visitor that Sydney is the best city in the world, which it aint! Melbourne people just know it and think melbourne is the centre-o-theuniverse. Brisbaners have an inferiority complex in comparison to Sydney, Adelaidians desperately want to be part of the 'easter states'. But Perth, ahh, Us Sandgropers ,are so far away that we dont give a ****! Taswegians, well, they're like Iowans I guess.
The US forums I've read thru (Sawmill Creek, Old Tools, Rec etc) seemed a bit, hmm, wierd. Talk about "shops" and "prayers", "47/49ths of an inch" radial arm saws, fixed based routers, oilstones, millers falls and other strange terms. Most of all a lack of friendly banter and abuse.Cheers,
Adam
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I can cure you of your Sinistrophobia
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5th August 2005, 03:14 PM #10
Theres a subtle difference between americans and Australians, I t hink it has a lot to do with patriotism.
An example, during the national anthem at the AFL grand final some bloke yells out "Carn the POWER". If that was at the superbowl/world serious he'd be lynched. In Australia, there were a few sniggers and "bloody idiots".
Also, it's acceptable to parade symbols of national identity, flags bald eagles etc in the USA. In Australia it's only for the strange. And finally, were all such cynics over here. IF someone carried on like Jerry Springer, Fox News or ProFootballers/Basketballers they'd be laughed out of town. As Andrew Bogut has been.
Hijack mode *off*.Cheers,
Adam
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8th August 2005, 02:08 PM #11Originally Posted by LineLefty
Oh, and it's the capital too.
Pity about the cold. And the drought. And the politicians.
TravSome days we are the flies; some days we are the windscreen
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8th August 2005, 02:18 PM #12New Member
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Americans and Australians
Based on my experiences, I would say that the differences between the two of us are relatively small - quite negligible in the grand scheme of things. We like the same things in life; good beer, a good sharp power saw, 400 Amp service to our 600 sq. ft. workshops! Woo Hoo!
Oh yeah, I wish.
But seriously, don't believe everything you read in the papers. Hopefully, you hear very little about us in your papers! Lately, the US isn't the best example of good worldly neighbors.
But still, we DO like our tools! And that has to count for something. The sound of our politicians humming away on this and that can put you to sleep, so I drown them out with a nice loud miter saw or drill press. There's no amount of stress that an hour in a tool shop won't handle.
Good Day to all you down under!
John
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8th August 2005, 02:19 PM #13
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Originally Posted by LineLefty
"Carn the POWER"
\end{hijack}Those are my principles, and if you don't like them . . . well, I have others.
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8th August 2005, 02:21 PM #14Originally Posted by Fool4puzzlesThose are my principles, and if you don't like them . . . well, I have others.
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8th August 2005, 03:14 PM #15Originally Posted by Lefty"I don't practice what I preach because I'm not the kind of person I'm preaching to."
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