Thread: ouch!

Originally Posted by Shutterbug

Fletty, how much material (in millimetres) are you trying to remove on each pass?

Hi SB, I generally bandsaw to about 3mm from the pencil line so I'd say I would be removing 3 to 5mm max. Looking at my pic shows evidence of the cutter rising, pushing the whole workpiece to the left and, amazingly, around the corner. Sometime very shortly after that, it continued to spin the workpiece clockwise and then drag my finger into the router cutter.
I won't frighten you with a pic of my finger but it looks like I took 3mm off the workpiece and 20mm off my finger!
Being me, I can now see the funny side. The emergency ward appeared to be the site of numerous medical selfies and I can't complain because I was one of them BUT, when the older gentleman in the bed beside me, who was believed to have suffered a stroke, raised one arm from under his blanket and took a selfie I cracked up! They say laughter is the best medicine ... well it worked for me!
Operation tomorrow and my return to woodwork will be totally dependent upon whether I come out with a bandage or a cast. If I am deprived of woodwork I may be found hanging around YOUR sheds sniffing the sawdust!
fletty

PS to Fence Furniture...
It was not my writing hand so I will be taking my enforced abstinence to write up the report on the sandpaper discs. You gave me some absolute gems to try!

Al, if you need any routing done, I can throw it thru the Moulder.

I think it's a little bit more than "ouch"! More like "AAAARRRGGHH"

I hope it recovers well Al- a very nasty accident. Did you feel sick from the adrenalin hit for a couple of days?

Originally Posted by FenceFurniture

Did you feel sick from the adrenalin hit for a couple of days?

nah, I've got 3 daughters and drive a Landrover, I THRIVE on adrenalin!

Fletty

Fletty,

My sympathy is enormous right now.

I did similar thing 12 years ago, smashed middle finger on my left hand and effectively near took off the top joint (bone blown away, left hanging by skin).

To this day, I still wince at the sound of a router. I do not enjoy using them at all. In my recent study build, with 18 raised panel doors to make, I ended up making jig after jig, magstops, tall fences etc. to ensure (as much as I could) that hands were as far away from that digit mangling beast as I could and all timber fed with push sticks.

I have also decided that bearing guided bits must ONLY ever be used with a fence in place where feather boards etc. can assist to keep hands well out harm's way.

And, at the end of the day, if it feels like I am getting too close, I will back off and find another way.

When I first started using my router table, I would often have my hands within millimeters of the bit .. upon reflection .. pure lunacy.

I am still to invest in an off table router for pattern work, but I will be.

All the very best.

Fletty, I am sure it is just more than ouch. Hope you recover soon. You do not say which router you are using but I know that a good number of people who have Triton routers will read this thread. So just a caution to those using the Triton router.
I have made a good number of raised panel doors with the big Triton router in the Triton router table.
I have had the big 89mm CMT panel raising cutter starting to come loose after tightening the you know what.
The original collet that the Triton comes with in Aus is a sorry excuse for a collet.
I have fitted the newer style collet (that was fitted to the USA models and the smaller JOF001 router in Aus) and have not had any slippage or cutters coming loose since.
When I asked Gordon from Triton at the Perth wood show why they persist with the old collets, his answer was that people damage the new collet by tightening it without a cutter in it. What a lame excuse.
If you are still using the old collet you should seriously consider fitting the newer style collet.
I also have the Festool OF1400, and I can tell you that the new style collet on the Triton grips just as well as the Festool.
Using this style of collet does give one peace of mind that there is much less of a chance (if any) for the cutter to loosen.
Les

Hi,
The latest Tritons come with the better collet. A separate one for each size, half inch and quarter inch in Australia, no need for adaptor sleeves.
Regards

Originally Posted by lesmeyer

If you are still using the old collet you should seriously consider fitting the newer style collet.

How do I know which collet I have? I don't have separate ones like the festool, but different sized inserts, if that makes sense.

Could somebody post pictures of the old and new triton collets so we can check? Much appreciated.

ajw

Rays last post in this thread https://www.woodworkforums.com/showth...=151157&page=2 shows the new collets.
I think this is the old collet http://nhwoodworker.com/triton/t29.jpg

We seem to have drifted off track a bit here. How did the op go Fletty? And yes we do want pics. This is the WWFs after all.

Given my recent history, I'm very happy that these router collet issues are being discussed. I wasn't aware of an issue with Tritons and I have 2 of them. The router that 'bit' me though was an older Makita.
Unfortunately, after a 4 hour wait, the operation did not go ahead yesterday and I am rescheduled for 8;30 tomorrow. The surgeon was ready to go and, on behalf of those of us left in the waiting room, he expressed his fury at the Hospital who had just advised him that they had closed the ward and there were NO recovery beds!
In the meantime, this wound...

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... has remained dressed and cleaned but unstitched and ungrafted inside a now fairly tatty bandage!
I'm still pretty calm about it all, I've still managed to get to work for a few urgent things but so far all I've been able to do in the shed is look at the evidence!
fletty

Nasty. The surgeons can do some wonderful things with micro surgery and grafts nowdays. I'm sure you'll be back in the shop in no time. (Those chairs aren't going to finish themselves ) If the recovery does drag on we might have to swing the volunteer crew into action.

Originally Posted by NCArcher

Rays last post in this thread https://www.woodworkforums.com/showth...=151157&page=2 shows the new collets.
I think this is the old collet http://nhwoodworker.com/triton/t29.jpg

We seem to have drifted off track a bit here. How did the op go Fletty? And yes we do want pics. This is the WWFs after all.

In the first thread Rayintheuk links to the spare parts to replace the collet Etc and the procedure to DIY.
I believe that this prob is strictly related to early TRA001's made by manufacturers long since bankrupt like mine. The key words that I saw in the post to identify the culprit are
You would also need to get a new 24mm open-ended wrench, as the nut sizes are different (you currently use a 21mm wrench).
therefore if you have a 21 mm spanner you would have the one that is not good one.
guess who has a 21mm one!