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    G'day Fletty,

    Good to see that you are on the mend.

    That you are a little nervous/cautious is good, no doubt we all can get a little complacent when we have done certain procedures many times, this is when we need to ensure that we follow standard operating procedures with regards procedure and safety.

    You have analysed the problem and now need to get back to it. I understand that there will be apprehension when you first start the router but that will pass. Start with something simple and enjoy it. This, after all, is why we do it in the first place.

    Look forward to your posts.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BobL View Post
    Guarding is a type of "engineering control" so its number 4 out of 6, and is the same as designing the danger out of the process,

    For those that are not aware the hierarch is
    1) elimination - get rid of the process altogether,
    2) substitution - uses a different machine
    3) Isolation - set up so the operator is completely physically isolated from process/machine
    4) engineering control - guards
    5) Training
    6) PPE
    hierarchy number 2, in this instance safer and quicker!

    recovery1.jpg recovery2.jpg recovery03.jpg

    The project is ON again!
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    I see that you did some shopping Saturday and scored well just note sanders can take off just as much as routers but it burns more.............not as much as someone finding out you bought more shed toys

    You were quick to hop to it and bring the project back to life.


    Make sure you get a dust extraction point soon otherwise you'll the shed covered and you rolling round the back yard trying to breath
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    Wheelin' is correct re sanders.

    Even though the sander is "slow" speed it is quite powerful, ensure that the table is set very close to the disk - as close as you can get it without actually touching, don't wear long sleeved shirt or jumper if the sleeves are loose.

    Looking at the disk from the front (as a clock) - the only workable area is between 9 and 12.

    Enjoy.

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    Quote Originally Posted by wheelinround View Post

    Make sure you get a dust extraction point soon otherwise you'll the shed covered and you rolling round the back yard trying to breath
    nah, the NEW fletty connected the dust extraction FIRST. You can just see it, bottom right hand corner of pic 3.
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    Back to the hospital today, weekly check up of the graft, it suddenly occurred to me that I am currently one of the very few people in the World who can put their elbow in their ear ....
    all OK though and my theory that healing is assisted by VERY HIGH QUALITY Shiraz is being proven daily!

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    Hi,
    Look at what you made me make at last. 004.jpghttps://www.woodworkforums.com/showthread.php?t=190628 for more details.
    Ps the attachment was a mistake.
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    Hugh,
    Even if this were the only good thing to come from my accident I am almost pleased to have had it! Others have messaged about how they have changed their methods and I am pleased that our community of woodworkers can and do help and support each other.
    On an even lighter side, I bought a Hegner finger jointer from the Forum Market Place (thanks Ben) and, when I described to my daughters that I had bought a new router that machined FINGER JOINTS ... they threatened to have me sectioned!

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    Sectioned is fine, you can live with that.

    Be really pleased and thankful that they did not want you sanctioned.

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    Quote Originally Posted by fletty View Post
    Hugh,
    Even if this were the only good thing to come from my accident I am almost pleased to have had it! Others have messaged about how they have changed their methods and I am pleased that our community of woodworkers can and do help and support each other.
    On an even lighter side, I bought a Hegner finger jointer from the Forum Market Place (thanks Ben) and, when I described to my daughters that I had bought a new router that machined FINGER JOINTS ... they threatened to have me sectioned!

    fletty
    Better than drawn and quartered......

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    I REALLY need to use the router so that I can get back onto the chair frames. I'm still a bit queazy about the whole thing so, when in doubt, go back to basics!

    I removed the collet and looked inside....

    ouch01.jpg

    I wasn't surprised about the amount of shavings but the fine layer on the taper was a bit concerning and it was cleaned out.

    The collet sleeve has 3 slots only one (obviously) of which is a complete cut and it was fairly clean but definitely open....

    ouch03.jpg

    The other 2 slots run from the OD to about half the thickness and, although there was some crud in the slot, these slots are required to expand and so the crud wouldn't have effected the reduction in ID and hence the grip

    ouch02.jpg

    Nonetheless, they were scrubbed out and the whole menagerie cleaned and re-assembled.

    FOR THOSE WITH GENTLE STOMACHS, LOOK AWAY NOW!

    I needed a do-or-die test to tell me if I had made a difference and if it was safe to get back into the saddle!

    ouch04.jpg

    The test was passed!

    fletty
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    Quote Originally Posted by fletty View Post
    I REALLY need to use the router so that I can get back onto the chair frames. I'm still a bit queazy about the whole thing so, when in doubt, go back to basics!

    I removed the collet and looked inside....

    ouch01.jpg

    I wasn't surprised about the amount of shavings but the fine layer on the taper was a bit concerning and it was cleaned out.

    The collet sleeve has 3 slots only one (obviously) of which is a complete cut and it was fairly clean but definitely open....

    ouch03.jpg

    The other 2 slots run from the OD to about half the thickness and, although there was some crud in the slot, these slots are required to expand and so the crud wouldn't have effected the reduction in ID and hence the grip

    ouch02.jpg

    Nonetheless, they were scrubbed out and the whole menagerie cleaned and re-assembled.

    FOR THOSE WITH GENTLE STOMACHS, LOOK AWAY NOW!

    I needed a do-or-die test to tell me if I had made a difference and if it was safe to get back into the saddle!

    ouch04.jpg

    The test was passed!

    fletty
    supposed to expand ........

    I'd have thought any crud build up which can not be compressed to allow closure/tightening of the collet a worry.

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    Quote Originally Posted by wheelinround View Post
    supposed to expand ........

    I'd have thought any crud build up which can not be compressed to allow closure/tightening of the collet a worry.

    That is what I would have thought as well.

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    Contract.

    As the collet is tightened the taper compresses the slots to grip the shaft of the bit. Because it pulls down this can lead to the problem of the bit bottoming out and the bit then being stuck or the collet not being able being able to tighten correctly - hence using an "O" ring at the bottom of the shaft to allow the collet to pull down correctly.
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