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Thread: Which Router Bits Are Decent?
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7th March 2021, 11:05 AM #31GOLD MEMBER
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Pete, I don't know where you think the MLCS bits are made, but I can assure you they're made in China. If you're in any doubt about this have a look at this page - Router Bits, Woodworking Supplies, Woodworking Tools - EagleAmerica.com
The 'review' that you've linked to is not a review at all, it's a guide as to what can be bought for users particular routing requirements. The sets selected for 'review' are a mish-mash of widely varying contents, what is the point of comparing a Whiteside 7 piece starter set to a Yonico 70 piece set and a Freud tounge and groove set. On top of this there isn't a single negative comment about the quality of any of the bits. It should be noted that there is a link to Amazon for all of the sets 'reviewed'. If one were cynical they might wonder whether the whole purpose of the 'review' was to assist Amazon to sell router bits.
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7th March 2021, 11:46 AM #32
Dave
I take your point absolutely. We are comparing apples and oranges. It is tempting to say the primary beneficiary is Amazon!
It would be interesting to compare just a few selected bits that are typically used. Maybe:
Straight bit
Rounding Over bit
Chamfer bit
Flush Trim bit
I have deliberately not gone into the likes of the joinery type bits that tend to have higher prices such as rail and stile and TGV etc.
Perhaps somebody has already done this somewhere.
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7th March 2021, 11:49 AM #33
"... As of 2019, Samsung has its mobile phone manufacturing factories at 6 locations .... 50% of Samsung mobile phones are made in Vietnam and 8% in South Korea. Rest is manufactured in India, Brazil, Indonesia and China...."
http://www.mobilecellphonerepairing.com/samsung-mobile-phone-manufacturing-company.html
... otherwise my next one will have to be a Nokia (unless they're now manufactured in China too ). Even then many of the components will be made in China.....
https://indianexpress.com/article/technology/mobile-tabs/finnish-origin-hmd-global-reminds-india-all-nokia-phones-made-locally/
But it may be different next month!
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7th March 2021, 12:03 PM #34
I also tend to agree.
Some western OEM's are very good at maintaining or even improving quality standards with Chinese manufactured products. Think Apple and Mercedes Benz.
Some western companies are far less successful at doing so, and actually appear to be deliberately buying crap products. Think BigChains - any of them.
I was in China two years ago and saw very high quality Chinese made woodworking hand tools and electrical tools. Do not ask more as I cannot read Chinese. When those products are released in the west then brands like Makita and de Walt tradesman lines, Festool and Mirka will have direct competitors with a far lower cost base.
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7th March 2021, 12:24 PM #35Taking a break
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China builds to a price, they're perfectly capable of making extremely high quality if they want to.
I bought a Chinese mechanical skeleton watch 8 years ago; it's never been serviced since then and it's still the most accurate mechanical watch I own, including several Swiss and Japanese movements, holding 5 seconds/day. That's COSC (Swiss chronometer certification standard) level accuracy for $200.
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7th March 2021, 12:53 PM #36
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7th March 2021, 01:03 PM #37
Thanks for that Dave. I was aware that the MLCS bits came from Taiwan but assumed (given personal experience of the bits) a more rigorous quality control than one might expect from its larger neighbour.
As to the 'review', well, now I can see why I'm a target for on-line scammers or, as my old Dad would have put it, "You'll stand for the three-card trick."
I have to say though that I'm still not convinced enough to buy bits on-line with brand names I've not heard of simply because of price. I guess I'll just have to keep paying through the nose for my peace of mind.
Pete
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7th March 2021, 03:31 PM #38GOLD MEMBER
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While talking about economics of cutting tools. I’ve found these Router Cutter Bits and Accessories Online in Australia - DIMAR. To be very very good. They cost on average about $100 initially, but, you get two cutting edges with the turn over knives system. So you’re effectively buying two cutters. Also, the replacement cutting inserts are about $4 each, on average, so they are cheaper,and quicker, than a traditional router bit which has to be sent away to be sharpened, at an average cost of $20 per time. They do profiled shaped cutter inserts too, for production type volume work.
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7th March 2021, 03:44 PM #39GOLD MEMBER
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Damn these ipad things I need lessons on how to paste links, anyway, they are a solid cutter with a replaceable insert system, using a small torx head screw. Quick and simple and very cost effective.
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7th March 2021, 04:46 PM #40Taking a break
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+1 for Dimar
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7th March 2021, 06:31 PM #41
Lucky for me I don't have a problem with India, Vietnam and Brazil. Not so happy with Indonesia (again - human rights abuses).
I didn't want a cellphone in the first place, but after the Christchurch earthquakes in 2010/11 my wife insisted I carry one (which actually stays in my locker when I'm at work). When I retire at the end of the year I'll be able to go back to not having one...
Cheers, Vann.Gatherer of rustyplanestools...
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7th March 2021, 06:40 PM #42GOLD MEMBER
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8th March 2021, 10:11 AM #43
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8th March 2021, 10:46 AM #44
I don't use a mobile phone. I have a phone, but it last had credit before the Corona Virus hit. I use it once a year perhaps and buy ten days credit. This is because SWMBO wants to be able to contact me when I am away from home. Each time I put credit on the phone I have to obtain a new number as the old number has been cancelled.
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