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10th October 2018, 11:44 AM #31Senior Member
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10th October 2018, 03:31 PM #32
Chris, thanks for posting these videos.
What the Germans seem to have produced is a lift that turns a router into a shaper. Europeans use shapers for tasks where our American cousins would reach for a dado blade. Also, cutters with replaceable cutters appear to be more common in Europe than in the US or Aus.
In the first video, the sliding adjustment is being used to re-center the cutter after tilting the router. In a proper shaper, the tilt is much like that on a table saw -- just below the table -- with that router lift the tilt is well below the table so the whole router needs to be slid forwards or backwards to re-center the cutter.
If the German lift mimics a real shaper the tilt range will be something like 45 degrees back and 5 or 15 degrees forwards.regards from Alberta, Canada
ian
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10th October 2018, 04:06 PM #33GOLD MEMBER
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When watching foreign language videos on utube switch on "subtitles" and "auto translate" with your language of choise.
The translation is not perfect but it enables you to follow (mostly) what is being said.
The router is slid sideways to centre the cutter in the hole.
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10th October 2018, 10:48 PM #34GOLD MEMBER
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Thanks for the heads up on that Bohdan, damned confusing in places and hard work in others and I had to keep stopping and starting the video to actually make sense of what they were saying. At least I found out the price of the lift and motor, $1700AUD so I'll pass on that as good as it is.
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11th October 2018, 04:43 AM #35
here's a link to an earlier (non tilting) version of the lift and motor https://www.sautershop.de/oberfraese...-ofl2-43-s1550 749 Euro (including 19% VAT) -- about $1100 AUD
Found a link -- look like there are 3 motor options
basic lift https://www.sautershop.de/schwenkbar...ofl3.0?c=15183 599 Euro
1550 W https://www.sautershop.de/oberfraese...-s1550?c=15183 929 Euro
1800 W https://www.sautershop.de/oberfraese...-s1800?c=15183 1079 Euroregards from Alberta, Canada
ian
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11th October 2018, 05:03 AM #36
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17th October 2018, 07:53 PM #37
I'm late to the thread also, but the topic of router lifts has been running for years. I never could see the point in buying a lift which, apart from only performing one simple function that already exists in most plunge routers, actually prevents many routers from functioning correctly/safely/at their full potential.
There are two router brands that are specifically suitable for inverted use, Festool and Triton. The Festool - by nature of the price - rules itself out of most hobbyists benches, but the largest Triton model is eminently suitable, having side-facing air vents (no debris will fall into the inverted motor), built-in coarse and fine winding handles for height adjustment, a safety lock on the power train when changing cutters and the real plus of above-the-table bit changing. Putting a large Triton into a router lift removes those features and abilities, plus will require a collet extension - the most dangerous and potentially damaging accessory ever invented for a router.
Save the ridiculous amount of money required for a router lift, buy a large Triton and invest the change in good-quality cutters. Goog luck with whatever you decide.
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17th October 2018, 08:50 PM #38GOLD MEMBER
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Ray,
You're right about the Triton and its plunge feature, this though didn't stop me buying the new Carbatec router table with router lift. It fits perfectly, and allows dead accurate raising and lowering of the bit without releasing the lock mechanism on the router. I'm glad I spent the extra money, and would encourage anyone else to do the same.
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17th October 2018, 09:34 PM #39Woodworking mechanic
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Hmm? Lots of posts seem to be Carbatec endorsements.
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17th October 2018, 09:51 PM #40GOLD MEMBER
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I don't like using a router and/or lift for two good reasons, the first is they cost so much and the second is they hang from the top and compromise the design of the table.
CHRIS
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