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  1. #1
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    Default I Said A Rude Word Today

    As the subject, I said a rude word today, and I said it with gusto! The story is that I'm fitting casters to the coffee table that we have in front of the couch. The couch has those lifting leg things, so we have to move the coffee table forward to save getting our legs trapped. I made the template for the guide bushing and did the first leg OK with a perfect fit. I love guide bushings. The template clamps to the leg, and I allowed a decent sized platform for the router to sit on (Bosch 1600CE with plunge base). I was using a 1/2" spiral cut bit that has an overall length of 100mm to cut a 45mm deep recess in the leg. The template is 1/2" thick, so I needed 57.7mm of the bit extended from the base, which leaves plenty in the collet.

    I was doing final clean up on the second leg and there's a BANG! When I removed the router I found that the guide bushing had come unscrewed, and it doesn't take much to snap a carbide bit. It was an expensive bit (NZ$215 from Carbatec ) so I was not best pleased and said the afore mentioned rude word (several times). What was worse is that Carbatec has no stock and I struggled to find a replacement but I did find one eventually, and it was cheaper than Carbatec NZ (NZ$154 from Whitside via Amazon)

    I've cut a lot of mortices with the spiral bit and I love it. The only reason I was using the brass Porter Cable style guide bushing is because it is shiny and looks nice, but I'd had concerns tightening it. I could just about get hold of the knurled ring with a pipe wrench, but was reluctant to grip the guide for fear of marking it. That's pretty ironic as it is definitely marked now. I have a set of steel Bosch guide bushings and will be using one of those when the new bit turns up. They clamp in the holder and I don't think they'd come loose (I'm touching wood). I actually think I bought the Bosch set just for the adaptor for the brass guide bushings.

    So that's my tale of woe. The casters are made from Acetal which machines beautifully with HSS tools, and OK(ish) with tipped tools. The 6mm furniture bolts come from Bunnings and I've always got a decent collection in my hardware rack. They call them JCB bolt and they are made by Hafele.

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    I feel your pain.

    I've had a guide bushing unscrew itself too. Didn't lose the bit, but the bushing lock nut wotsit was ruined - must have rattled around against the bit.

    Still haven't replaced it :/

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    I think the problem was that the guide bushing fell into the recess and had nowhere to go, so jammed the bit and carbide bits can break from a stern look. I doubt I'll use the brass bushings again, but I'd love to hear other peoples ideas on how to tighten them?

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    In my experience guide bushings only unscrew when you rout in an anticlockwise direction. It's the bushing being turned by running along the edge of the template. If you rout clockwise you never have that problem.

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    Quote Originally Posted by aldav View Post
    In my experience guide bushings only unscrew when you rout in an anticlockwise direction. It's the bushing being turned by running along the edge of the template. If you rout clockwise you never have that problem.
    It is not good practice to use a router in a clock wise direction. I often use a router with bushes, to fit veneer motifs, hinges and veneer bandings, without any trouble. Try taking the router base off and fitting the appropriate bush first. Better access to the knurled nut that way.

    Jim
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    Quote Originally Posted by powderpost View Post
    It is not good practice to use a router in a clock wise direction.
    Jim
    Is this correct in this situation? Route the inside of a form Clockwise, outside anticlockwise?
    Franklin

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    Sometimes climb cutting is the right way to do cuts. This is one of those occasions. Porter Cable style guide bushes will always be at risk of loosening, they're designed to be done up finger tight and have no locking mechanism. Much safer to rout clockwise and retain the bushing in the router than risk losing it and end up in the position where the OP has found himself.

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    Just wondering if Loctite would assist on those screw threaded guide bushes Of course undoing the thread could als be an issue?
    Johnno

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    Thread tape, a'la plumbers tape?

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