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  1. #1
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    Question Spring removal Ryobi ERT2100VK

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    Evening gentlemen (and Ladies if present)
    I have recently put my Ryobi ERT2100VK into my router table and it works a treat except for one thing....Its really difficult to adjust it UP if needed due to the strength of the spring for plunge action. I know the triton router can remove the spring but unfortunately finances didn't stretch that far.

    Does anyone know if and how I can remove the spring?????? I've taken the screw out of the fine adjuster but it doesn't allow the knob to be removed, which is where I presume the spring is...

    Thanks for any help in advance
    'You can't change the direction of the wind, but you can adjust your sails'

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    i have used a makita and when you take the fine adjustment screw completly of the threaded rod on the side of the router then release the lock the base comes right off with springs and all. don't know if this will help at all but have you got some pictures of the router i can look a.

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    Jad

    I took the springs out of my Bosch for this exact reason.

    Unfortunately no easy way. Presuming yours is a similar design (I think most routers follow a common pattern) then you need to undo the screws holding the casing together. Mine is simply two plastic mouldings that form the body. When you have done this the spring mechanism with the pistons just lifts out. You then just remove the springs and re-assemble.

    Two points, keep the springs, I needed to replace mine after I made a router lifter for the table

    Second, dis-assemble over a large soft cloth. You may find a few little bits fall out, this way they won't go missing.

    Sorry if I've made it sound difficult, it really isn't, maybe five minutes.
    Bodgy
    "Is it not enough simply to be able to appreciate the beauty of the garden without it being necessary to believe that there are faeries at the bottom of it? " Douglas Adams

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    hi JaD

    If you look on the sides of the base plate you will see two holes. Two grub screws live in these holes Undo these and the base plate comes off

    There is a roll pin that goes through the bottom of the shaft and keeps the spring under tension this is on the side with the on/off switch

    This needs to be pushed out so the spring comes out

    good luck

    dazzler


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    Quote Originally Posted by dazzler
    good luck

    dazzler
    Thanks Dazzler, sounds like u have the info, BUT I'M NOT SO SURE ABOUT THE SOUND OF THE """GOOD LUCK"""""

    How much pressure did u say was on the spring???:eek:
    I'll go an avago now....Wish me luck
    'You can't change the direction of the wind, but you can adjust your sails'

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    Thanks Dazz, you had the exact method.......
    Unfortunately one of the grub screws has had the allen head rounded off inside it:mad: :mad: :mad:

    This is a brand new router and so it must have been from assembly, though I don't think anyone at Ryobi is going to believe me that it was like that from the moment I tried to undo it The other side came straight out....no prob

    So I guess its off to Buttsworths to buy an easy-out and hopefully I don't end up with a very thin easy out broken off in the screw....

    Thanks again Dazzler
    'You can't change the direction of the wind, but you can adjust your sails'

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    Quote Originally Posted by JaD
    Thanks Dazz, you had the exact method.......
    Unfortunately one of the grub screws has had the allen head rounded off inside it:mad: :mad: :mad:
    Interestingly I had the same problem removing the screws from mine. One came out easily and the other was in tight and the allen key slips when you try to turn it. Maybe its deliberate.

    P.S. I bought my screw extractor on Thursday. I was going to try and get the screw out this weekend.

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    Hee Hee

    me three:mad: .........I am thinking cause its alloy prob better taking it to a shop and getting to drill it out maybe.....At least if they stuff it they can counterscrew another hole fo ra slightly larger one.

    I reckon maybe they are locktighted in and not a real good quality steelgrub screw.

    cheers


    dazzler


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    Quote Originally Posted by JaD
    hopefully I don't end up with a very thin easy out broken off in the screw....
    Well that's what I ended up with . That screw is definately in tight. Maybe it's not meant to come out. Take care trying to remove it.

    Has anyone actually removed the springs from one of these routers? The screws in the base plate are only about a centimetre long. Removing one side screw doesn't seem to make the base loose and I can't believe that it's only these two screws that hold the plate on. Anyone actually done it?

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    Buggar.....Sorry to hear that Pete......I bought my removal bit but haven't attempted yet...Went away for the weekend

    I have a new style of easy-out, called a "Micro Drill-out"...its only a couple of mill thick, hex shaped shaft about 35mm long, and has a left handed drill tip on one end and a 'easy-out' thread on the other, to suit the drill size...The engineer shop recommended it and reckons they have only heard of a couple actually breaking in use....heres hoping...
    'You can't change the direction of the wind, but you can adjust your sails'

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    Angry Not happy Jon!!!!

    Well......I join the 'broken easy-out group' (BEG).....seemed like a good idea at the time.....Geez that little sucker sure is tight...

    Why should it be so difficult to remove a spring in such a big router, which in most cases will be used in a table mode:mad: :confused:

    I wonder just how many guys ,and gals, have not been able to do this????? I still say the screw head was stuffed from assembly:mad:
    Maybe we can have a group claim against Ryobi or at least have their agents remove the screw and spring for us

    Maybe I just bring the car jack in

    For a special price at the wood show, it's turning into an expensive excersize.....$24 for the easy-out...Might be better saving my money and go to the gym for strength work so I can move the lump of s*#t up and down

    Jon
    'You can't change the direction of the wind, but you can adjust your sails'

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    Bad Luck Jon. I only paid $10 for my broken easyout!

    They certainly are in tight. I wonder why one comes out really easy and the other one is impossible to remove? I assume they its not meant to be taken out.

    I have given up on removing the springs. I have a triton router table so its not too hard to remove the router plate with router attached, adjust the router to the approximate height, put it back in the table and adjust to the correct height using the fine adjustment. It's easier to adjust down than it is to move up. Sounds worse than it is. A bit of a pain but I don't use it every day.

    Peter

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    Hi there fellow Ryobi owners!!!! I've been waiting to hear back from a "friend of a friend" (no names here please ) who happens to work for Ryobi and he has told me to take the router back to an agent for warranty claim Well I'm going to do that this week, so I'll let you all know...

    I now know of 4 of us who have the exact same problem, petermac, dazzler, me and my mate who bought his router with me at last years wood show. I actually got him to check his grub screw before doing anything and it was stripped in the head
    'You can't change the direction of the wind, but you can adjust your sails'

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    Default Dazzler's got the answer

    Hey

    Well for the past few months I would walk past the ERT, growl and keep on going. Anyways finally cracked the ........ :mad: and decided to pull the :mad: :mad: :mad: :mad: apart to get that :mad: :mad: :mad: :mad: spring out.

    So I have now worked out how to get it out. Its easy but involves taking the case apart and this may upset some viewers.

    Once apart you can also remove the yellow microadjuster and rod etc and that will allow a threaded shaft to be put in so that it can be adjusted above the table.

    Send me a PM if you want to know how or alternatively should I post how to do it and the upsetables can sod off .

    cheers

    dazzler


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    Well done Dazzler ......So far I've not been so lucky ...Yet.

    When I took it back as per my previous post, I explained at length the problem but felt that the guy wasn't really understanding me but he assured me his notes would explain it to the repair shop.(it had to be sent to another power tool shop to get fixed) They rang me back in about 5 days and said" Good news...Ryobi have done the repair under warranty and come pick it up" I picked it up and I now know I should have opened it there first but when I opened it at home it was exactly the same. untouched screw.
    Guess what they "REPAIRED" under warranty???? They refitted the black plastic base plate which I had removed to fit to the table plate:mad: :mad:
    WOW Who did they think was operating the router? Someone who couldn't screw the baseplate back on:mad:
    So I took it back to the repair shop personally and again explained the issue to them, and even gave them a printout of this thread. That was about 3 weeks ago now and I haven't heard nuffin:mad: I'm going to call in there tomorrow, so hopefully they have just lost my phone number


    And Dazzler....Wots doing with the avatar????:confused:
    That stuff is reserved for DOUG Sorry yours just doesn't get there....

    VOTE 1 FOR DOUGS...I CAN SIT AND WATCH BEAUTY LIKE THAT ALL NITE....
    DID DOUGS MAKE IT IN THE AUST DAY PHOTOS? THATS WHAT AUST SHOULD BE ABOUT........Apologies in advance to Ruffly
    'You can't change the direction of the wind, but you can adjust your sails'

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