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24th September 2006, 08:55 AM #1
Type of bit
Asked this question elsewhere but no response, so this should get a more focussed audience.
A. To cut blind mortices in Oz hardwood, up to 10mm wide and 30 mm deep, what sort of bit should I use? Spiral upcut or straight?
B. How deep can I cut, in one pass, with either a 6mm or 10mm bit and not stuff the bit or router?
C. Are longer bits available or do you use an extension thingo?
D. If I'm burning the wood when cutting (even with v slow feed rate), am I running the router too fast?
E. Anyone ever had an issue with a new router when the collett won't grip the bit, despite being really cinched up? Yes it is the correct size for the bit and I cleaned any storage lubricant off with petrol. The bit just seems to slowly work its way out. I tried several bits.
Thanks guys.Bodgy
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24th September 2006, 09:30 AM #2
Hey Bodgey
A. Either can be used but will require different technique. The Spiral Cutter is more expensive BUT will give you a better cut. Guys like PAt Warner reckon that the good old straight bits are the most widely used and economical router bits on the market.
B. I've found patience to be your best friend when routing I personally would't go deeper than 1/8 inch with the bits you've mentioned. Generally the lighter the cuts the better the results.
C. Longer bits are available often marketed as "Long Shank" straight bits etc etc LArge n long Spiral cutters come at a premium. These days I tend to do the bulk of the work with a straight bit then finish cut with a Spiral...............Depends on how perdantic I need to be for the Job at hand though.
D. Take a lighter pass or if you can climb cut...................reduces scorching considerably and gives a cleaner cut (Do this safely though otherwise you'll get some nasty kickback)
E. Sounds like your collets cactus..............I wouldn't dream of using a potentially bodgey collet your router wont say sorry to you if something bad happens at 10 000 rpm. Try a different collet if you can and see how you go!!!
Hope this helps bodgey
Regards LouJust Do The Best You Can With What You HAve At The Time
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24th September 2006, 01:02 PM #3
A. 3/8th spiral upcut.
B. Ask Lou
C. Ask Lou
D. Ask Lou, could slow the routers rpm to help.
E. Ask Lou!....................................................................
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24th September 2006, 05:12 PM #4
Gday Bodg
A. Either will do the job, spirals are reputed to be more efficient at chip clearance in morticing but plenty of woodworkers "make do" with straight bits. Vacuum chip extraction can help here.
B. Conv. wisdom suggests no deeper than the diameter of the bit you're using in one pass. In reality prob depends also on how the timber machines, the quality of bit, controlled feed rate, etc.
C. Can get longer bits, better brands are usually longer than cheapo bits. 30mm deep shouldn't be a problem with most standard bits I'd reckon.
D. Burning may indicate trying to cut too much in one hit, a blunt router bit, poor chip clearance, router speed too high, feed rate too slow. Some woods machine better than others, or can be more prone to burning. You mentioned a v slow feed rate, sounds like router running too fast or trying to take too big a bite.
E. Have heard of spiral bits being inclined to pull out of the collet if not correctly held, if it's happening with a few different bits though the collet may be dodgy. I assume this is the B & D router on your morticing gizmo, it's a fairly cheap router, so ditto the collet you'd assume, should be able to hold the bit safely, though.
Maybe check the bit shanks with verniers to check they are in tolerance.
Cheers..............Sean
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