Thread: Winding up, down.

Originally Posted by rgum

I'd love a winder mech attch'd to my router ( under table ). Money?

It is a pain to wind incramentally , hand under the table. Are the new Triton routers making this task easier?

Will be buying new large Triton router soon.

Cheers Tony.

Professional Woodworkers sell an above table winder for the Triton, $100 from memory.

I was going to add this to my router table that I just finished, but now that I actually have it working I don't find the need for it. Coarse height adjustment is very quick and the fine height adjustment on the Triton TRA001 is easy to get at, particularly if you position it slightly to the front left when looking at the router fron on. If that makes sense?

I am using the Woodpeckers router insert, already pre-drilled for the Triton router and the holes are perfectly positioned to this right.

The 'BIG' Triton does not come with above-table winding as original - I believe the 'after-market' winding kit requires a fair bit of stripping down & replacing/cutting/drilling of bits & is not reverseable.

The smaller unit does have the above-table fitting built in - a pity that Triton(GMC) i) haven't made a Mk.2 of the large router with the fittings and ii) haven;t made a retro-fit kit for the winder.

Originally Posted by bsrlee

The 'BIG' Triton does not come with above-table winding as original - I believe the 'after-market' winding kit requires a fair bit of stripping down & replacing/cutting/drilling of bits & is not reverseable.

The smaller unit does have the above-table fitting built in - a pity that Triton(GMC) i) haven't made a Mk.2 of the large router with the fittings and ii) haven;t made a retro-fit kit for the winder.

But its a bloody good router eh?

In response to this question being raised over the years, and realising that not everybody can afford (or need) the UniLIFT ($585) we worked wth the folk at Router Technologies n the US to produce a Triton specific Router Raizer.

Installation takes about 1/2 an hour, with the most complex part being the drilling of a 1/2" diameter hole in the black plastic cap that retains the spring. If you're uneasy about installing it, local tool repairers will do it for you.

There are at least a hundred of these in use here in Oz (and NZ) and perform very well. At $100 it beats the myriad of other solutions (car jacks etc)

It can be seen HERE There is also a great commentary by fellow forumite DPB on his Installation & Use of the Router Raizer on his trusty TRA001.

We also have Phenolic Plates pre-drilled to accept boh the Triton & the Router Raizer.

I hope that this puts at least one solution on the table for you?

Regards

The Woodworker

If you are in the design stage of your router table, the cheapest solution by far is to make the table top hinge. That way you can simply lift, adjust, change bits etc. I find changing bits more annoying than changing height - at least I used to.

The RR and UniLifts etc are good solutions after the table is built or if you have lots of items on the table when routing.

Originally Posted by rgum

I'd love a winder mech attch'd to my router ( under table ). Money?

It is a pain to wind incramentally , hand under the table. Are the new Triton routers making this task easier?

Will be buying new large Triton router soon.

Cheers Tony.

The MOF001 has a through the table winder, one rotation of the handle is 1.6mm - each mark is 0.2mm this is more than accurate enough for me.
The TRA001 doesn't have this feature but all you have to do is reach down to it's fine adjustment knob and wind it the same amount as the smaller router which is dead easy to do. For fast adjustment, grab the large knob, squeeze and rotate to wind up or down, is this method fast enough do you think?

Originally Posted by Just George

The MOF001 has a through the table winder, one rotation of the handle is 1.6mm - each mark is 0.2mm this is more than accurate enough for me.
The TRA001 doesn't have this feature but all you have to do is reach down to it's fine adjustment knob and wind it the same amount as the smaller router which is dead easy to do. For fast adjustment, grab the large knob, squeeze and rotate to wind up or down, is this method fast enough do you think?

Oops, thought I'd ad a little more, if you had a router that you needed to manually screw up and was really really hard to do, then buy a lifter but the Tritons are so easy to do, why would you bother?

The only reason I could possibly think of is if you couldn't reach the router easily. And if you can't reach it, is it getting the required amount of air to the motor to keep it cool?

Just thought Id add me two bobs worth here

There comes a time for some of us when the bending kneeling process is PAINFULL... even the slight bending kneeling process causes quite severe pain... so given that yes the bending down to reach under to turn that sodding knob is a cause for pain particularily in the knees.

I have the carbetex table with the jigs its still as open as the day I set it up and I use the dust collection unit so dust isnt an issue for me the biggest single issue is getting the bloody router up or down particularily in small tiny increments!

I will check what model triton I have but its the big buggar... but still it IS a pain in the knees for me to change the damned settings without an above table winding setup... Ive tried that sizzor jack raising method but had some concerns about the possibility of the top of the jack going through the plastic of the casing on the router so I got rid of the thing... fine tune raising still entailed bending which with my knees is not a joyous occasion at all

So although some will find it easy to simply bend down and turn the handle others like myself with dicky knees will find it an experience to avoid whenever possible... Im only just 50 and otherwise pretty fit and healthy but the knees when they go... GO... and after that it wont matter a crap if your 34 or 64 your bending kneeling days are numbered... so have a thought before you post maybe some of us have no bloody choice but to get these windyuppy dohickeys so we dont cause ourselves too much agony when doing stuff in the shed... yeah maybe its easy for some maybe others dont think it could happen to them but I was like that only last year... this year I have more appreciation of my knees and the pain associated with them going.

Just thought Id give a little perspective

Thanks Gwhat... finally!!

Thankyou all for the advice. Its great.

Dingo??? Where do I get me a new lower back and knees?
Don't these machine designers know we are an ageing society here in Aus?
Thankyou for your help. I'm not going to buy the uebeaut table as you bought. Bloody keen on it though. Makes tennoing look like whitecoller work .... I used to be one of them. Matre D.

Buy a plate soon and make me a table into a cab ....at work.

Thanks

I quite like the look of this one from JW Nixon:
http://www.eaglelakewoodworking.com/...htm?videos.htm

As soon as I find a cheap electric screwdriver and a few hours spare time...

G'day Wild Dingo,

I thought I'd post this link for you, it's the router lift that Bob38S thought up. It's very simple in design and the way it works. I'll be doing the same when I get to making my router table.

http://www6.cyanide.com.au/~woodwork...ghlight=router

Gidday Waldo
Yeah I remember that one by Bob but for some reason never posted my one question to it... mmm okay the question

You see as I do the second pic with the wheel attached to the jaw of the vice? soooo none of the others show where he locates that particular piece which must be the winder... is it UNDER the steel plate? or somehow mysteriously attaches above the table somehow

IF its under the plate then you would have to be bending even lower to get down far enough to get at it then reaching into the centre of the plate to reach all very non buggared knee freindly

Or am I in my usual way missing something?

ooh and Geoff mate that page doesnt show a router table design let alone a lifter... maybe Im missing something again?

oooh okay found it!!

G'day Dingo,

Here's a shot from under his table.

I'm sure he wouldn't mind me posting this shot. I've got some more if they'd be of a help to you. What Bob did was to replace the handle off the vise with an water irrigation wheel.

As to me it appears the router collete pointing upward and the wheel is under that... I guess Im right that its even more of a bend down reach under to get to it then?