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31st January 2020, 10:37 AM #31SENIOR MEMBER
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Baluster Lap Joint.jpgExterior stairs.jpg
To illustrate my point about accuracy, here are some pics of stairway railings I replaced a few years ago using my old Makita compound mitre saw only. The intersections are all lap jointed.
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31st January 2020, 11:05 AM #32GOLD MEMBER
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With the Makita being capable of that I would keep it unless it is difficult to set up or something. I would work towards making a better hood/enclosure for it rather than spending a grand or two on a new saw that will need a station tailored to it anyway. The monies not spent would buy a lot of other tools or wood. Each to their own however.
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31st January 2020, 11:46 AM #33SENIOR MEMBER
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Thanks Pete. It's now all about the relative sizes of the enclosure between new and old Makitas. The size demanded by the old model demands a cabinet which would intrude into a frequently used passage between bench and bandsaw. You know what it's like when you have to step around something all the time. Otherwise I'd save the grand for other things. I may even get a few hundred for the old saw (he said hoping).
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1st February 2020, 12:07 AM #34Woodworking mechanic
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The hardest SCMS to collect dust on are the ones with the rods that slide. The LS1019 slides ON the rods so it should be easier to collect the dust because you don’t have to make the collection hood go waaaaaay back.
i built one for my Makita LS1018L. It worked great but was such a PITA to set up to cut (I had the hood so it could pull forward on drawer slides to take up less room when storing) that took the hood off and now use a BMH together with its own dust outlet. Not perfect but acceptable.
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1st February 2020, 08:03 AM #35SENIOR MEMBER
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1st February 2020, 09:54 AM #36.
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BMH = Bell Mouth Hood
When placed on the ends of ducting (either naked ducts or connecting ducting to machine cabinets) BMHs capture the most amount of air (and hence fine dust) by minimising turbulent air intake.
They also produce a higher air intakes speed further from the end of the hood than any other hood - this is really important when attempting to maximise dust capture and not interfering with workpieces and machinery operations.
This is the one behind my lathe
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And on Belt sander
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I don't have a SCMS so I have not tried BMHs on these saws but I suspect a wider hood like Chrises would be superior.
With a try though.
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We need to be careful of the over use of acronyms as they can cause confusion and thereby amount to misinformation. To me AI was artificial insemination long before it was artificial intelligence.
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I have an unfounded tin foil hat theory that the curved sides act a bit like a bell mouth in that the air can't get into dead 90 degree corners and stall. One thing I am going to do is add a bell mouth to the inlet at the top to increase the flow rate.
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1st February 2020, 10:40 AM #39Woodworking mechanic
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Here’s a link to my set up - post #20
New Dust Extraction setup
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10th February 2020, 12:38 PM #40SENIOR MEMBER
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Glider, have you had a chance to get hands on with an LS1019L? I had a look at two in different stores and the heads on both could be deflected a bit without too much effort but how much of this was due to being a manhandled display unit I couldn't say. Doing a search for reviews, some people have had issues with the alignment of the rails to the blade. I found the 12" Bosch Glide (only tested one unit) a lot more rigid. The Kapex 88 and 120 has the most rigid head unit, it doesn't flex or deflect at all.
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10th February 2020, 02:02 PM #41SENIOR MEMBER
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I purchased the Makita LS1019, the model without a laser. It took four calls before I found a tool shop who had one in stock. Since I align my cut line to the side of the blade, I couldn't see the point of waiting for a feature which I think is unnecessary.
The moving arm of mine is quite solid. There's a locking device which should be turned firmly clockwise. Out of the box the blade angle was 90.1 degrees. After a bit of fiddling with the Wixey, it's now holding a consistent 90.0 degrees. I reset the guide rails for a perpendicular cut using a 1mm spacer which was done easily. I was disappointed that a hold fast wasn't included and need to call Makita to see if it should have been part of the package.
The dust extraction isn't perfect and I think their design involving rubber boots looks a bit crude but it catches >95% and possibly close to 99%. And it's streets ahead of my old Makita which threw sawdust around like confetti. Once I design and build a cabinet, it should collect the lot. A lot of the designs on the internet position the outlet on the bottom of the cabinet as if they want to collect dust from its floor. Personally I don't care about that because it can be tidied easily with a shop vac. I'm far more concerned about airborne dust which might escape to atmosphere inside the shed.
In short, I'm very satisfied with my choice.
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10th February 2020, 02:58 PM #42SENIOR MEMBER
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Glad to hear the LS1019 is working well and is accurate. I hear you about the confetti spray... My first SCMS was a Bosch green and using it for the first time in my garage was quite the experience. Purchased a Shop Vac that afternoon as well but eventually resorted to rolling it out onto the driveway because no Shop Vac is going to capture the 180 degree spray off the back of that saw.
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