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    Quote Originally Posted by Glider View Post
    During my research it was claimed that Festool don't dip their motor windings to stabilise them so motor failures were reported in the U.S.

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    Don't forget that the Kapex sold here is 110V as are all mitre, small table saws and power tools. The higher failure rate could be due to running them hard, taxing them to their limit too often.

    Small digression off topic over.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Albert View Post
    The best mitre saw when it comes to DE is Omga, the dust port is 80mm. you cant beat that.
    You're probably right, however a quick search didn't reveal an Australian distributor for Omga, only second hand sales. The last thing I would buy is an orphan, especially one which is more expensive than Kapex.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Glider View Post
    a quick search didn't reveal an Australian distributor for Omga
    These guys seem to stock them. Doesn't look cheap though. Big mother too. http://www.ronmack.com.au/products/w...mitre-saw.aspx

    This thread has got me thinking about replacing my Dewalt mitre saw with a Kapex. The DW is extremely noisy and has hopeless dust extraction. Can anyone tell me the difference between the KS88 at $1550 and the KS120 at $2065? The only difference I can see when comparing them on the Festool website is Cutting depth 90/90 and Cutting depth 45/45 left in which the cheaper model exceeds the more expensive.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jack620 View Post
    These guys seem to stock them. Doesn't look cheap though. Big mother too. http://www.ronmack.com.au/products/w...mitre-saw.aspx

    This thread has got me thinking about replacing my Dewalt mitre saw with a Kapex. The DW is extremely noisy and has hopeless dust extraction. Can anyone tell me the difference between the KS88 at $1550 and the KS120 at $2065? The only difference I can see when comparing them on the Festool website is Cutting depth 90/90 and Cutting depth 45/45 left in which the cheaper model exceeds the more expensive.
    It still won't solve your dust issues using a mitre saw, it is nothing like as good as some would like to believe. Buy it because it is a nice tool and does a great job but not for the dust collection. If it was a 100% answer, sure, than buy it for the dust collection but it isn't. The best answer and still not a 100% on and it is way less dangerous. A table saw sled still presents dust collection problems as large as the mitre saw, a BS reduces the problem to where an average smaller DE will handle the issue fairly well.

    Like a lot of issues in WW there is no single simple answer, use a mitre saw, a well designed hood and a Clearvue or similar and the problem falls to a level that will not affect our health but few of us are willing to go that far.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tonyz View Post
    .......where'd you get such thick acrylic for top piece?
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    Hi Tony

    Virtually any plastics supplier/plastics fabricator will be able to supply perspex and polycarbonate sheeting in a range of thicknesses from about 3mm to 12mm, or thicker, and cut to size.

    If you haven't done so already, it is worth buying a small bottle of the chemical that one uses to "weld" plastic. Far better than glue.


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    Quote Originally Posted by jack620 View Post
    These guys seem to stock them. Doesn't look cheap though. Big mother too. http://www.ronmack.com.au/products/w...mitre-saw.aspx
    I found that too but it's only a chop saw not a compound.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Chris Parks View Post
    The best answer and still not a 100% on and it is way less dangerous. A table saw sled still presents dust collection problems as large as the mitre saw, a BS reduces the problem to where an average smaller DE will handle the issue fairly well.

    Like a lot of issues in WW there is no single simple answer, use a mitre saw, a well designed hood and a Clearvue or similar and the problem falls to a level that will not affect our health but few of us are willing to go that far.
    Well, that didn't make a lot of sense I must say. What I meant was make a bandsaw sled for smaller cut off work, most probably more accurate than a mitre saw and a whole lot less dangerous. I have made two recently, one for 45 angles and one for square cuts.
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    Quote Originally Posted by jack620 View Post
    Can anyone tell me the difference between the KS88 at $1550 and the KS120 at $2065? The only difference I can see when comparing them on the Festool website is Cutting depth 90/90 and Cutting depth 45/45 left in which the cheaper model exceeds the more expensive.
    KS88 is lower spec: No laser, no fine adjustment on the mitre, no angle finder, can't do the 168mm skirting board vertical cut.

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    The KS88 also does not have the brake on the motor.

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    OK people, the jury is back and the decision is not to buy a Kapex. But nobody has recommended keeping the old Makita with the rear sliders and build a monster cabinet to house it. So the decision is to buy a Makita 1019 thereby saving over a grand, which is likely to be put to good use buying yet more tools or timber.

    Thanks once again for the wisdom and collective knowledge,

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    Sounds good, I will be interested to hear your thoughts on the saw. I would love to get one myself but I already have 3 mitre saws so can’t really justify another

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    That’s great to hear. I have numerous Festool power tools and some of them are quite specialist, Festool does make very reliable and durable powder tools. However personally I won’t spend good money on a Kapex.

    Omga/Elumatec (German) both make very good mitre saws, Have a look at their website, They are both very industrious. Turkish maker Yilmaz makes more economical version of Omga style saw.

    If you have a space for a panel saw, even a small one, it would eliminate the need for a mitre saw, more versatile and safer too.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Beardy View Post
    Sounds good, I will be interested to hear your thoughts on the saw. I would love to get one myself but I already have 3 mitre saws so can’t really justify another
    No worries, Beardy. I'll make a note to post something back onto this thread when I set it up.

    Quote Originally Posted by Albert View Post
    That’s great to hear. I have numerous Festool power tools and some of them are quite specialist, Festool does make very reliable and durable powder tools. However personally I won’t spend good money on a Kapex.

    Omga/Elumatec (German) both make very good mitre saws, Have a look at their website, They are both very industrious. Turkish maker Yilmaz makes more economical version of Omga style saw.

    If you have a space for a panel saw, even a small one, it would eliminate the need for a mitre saw, more versatile and safer too.
    I'm sure that there's lots of excellent alternatives but the day I need a replacement part or a repair will be the day I'll rue buying a machine without a rock solid keen local distributor.

    BTW Cava, I'll include some pics when I report back. I'm planning a separate post on the whole dusty project with lots of photos. I'm just waiting to collect my other computer from hospital. It has all the early images.

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    If I were ever going to buy another mitre saw it would definitely be the Kapex, unless something else came out in the meantime. Mainly for the better dust collection and overall quality / precision.

    Alas, I have an old Bosch mitre saw I purchased 10 years ago that is still working and I don't really use it more than once a year or so, so it's likely to outlive me before it needs replacing.

    I'm sure you'll be happy with the Makita, if the primary decision driver isn't cost based - I think that decisions made on price often end up as nagging regrets.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DomAU View Post
    If I were ever going to buy another mitre saw it would definitely be the Kapex, unless something else came out in the meantime. Mainly for the better dust collection and overall quality / precision.

    I'm sure you'll be happy with the Makita, if the primary decision driver isn't cost based - I think that decisions made on price often end up as nagging regrets.
    I hear you, Dom. While I agree that the Kapex adjustments are easier to make and the scales easier to read, especially for those of us approaching middle age (!), I can't agree that it's more accurate. That comes down to care in setting the blade. I use a Wixey for blade angle and either a tool or a jig for mitred cuts and a cut line made with a sharp blade, not a pencil. As a self taught amateur, the extra time doesn't mean much to me.

    What it comes down to is whether the bells and whistles are worth the extra.

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