Thread: New Carbatec FM300

Hi
I have disconnect my switch and I have added a pull switch in my shed so I can turn it on as required. I have a pull core switch hanging over my table saw. My dusty is a different make but I think they are all very similar. All you do is disconnect the power remove the switch, the wires on mine just plug on the switch. You can buy some male terminals and just make up some short joiners and plug them in to bypass the switch. I actually used some fuses (12v) and they have worked fine. Then I taped them all up and pushed the wires back in and refitted the switch which of course is no longer connected. If you are unsure dont do it or seek further help. You could take a photo of the switch if you are unsure.

Cheers Jerryj

Why not just leave the switch on the dusty turned on, then turn it on and off at the wall socket? What does hard wiring to bypass the on board switch achieve?

Fuzzie, the switch on the dusty is a no-volt switch, so that as soon as the power goes off by switching remotely ( at the power point inside the shed, say), the no-volt relay in the switch drops out, and the dusty has to be re-started at the switch. Switching the power point back on with the no-volt relay dropped out will not start the dusty

Thanks for your replies,
Here's a couple photos of the switch and wires,
Unfortunately Jill is correct in her description of the switch.

Originally Posted by wm460

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Unfortunately Jill is correct in her description of the switch.

OK. More advanced technology than my King of UFO 2HP dusty. I can see the sense of that sort of switch for a machine that might bite, but not sure of it's value on a tool like a dusty.

Must be an OH&S improvement.

On second thoughts, I wouldn't suggested bypassing the switch, I'd rather see it replaced with a normal 2 gang switch on the machine.

Hi
Terminals 13 and 14 have to be joined together and 23 and 24 also. But of course if you dont feel good about it then get an electrician.

Cheers Jerryj

This could void your warranty too...

I imagine that you intend connecting the DC to a 10A standard power point (GPO)? I very much doubt if it is designed for the heavy switching loads that the DC will give on starting ( and to a lesser extent, on shutting down). But the switch on the DC certainly is, going by the nameplate details. I would expect that the GPO to burn out pretty quickly if subjected to this type of switching duty.

Under the normal operation for which this setup is designed, the GPO is in the closed position, and the heavy duty switch on the DC does the switching, which can be up to 5 times the rated current. A GPO is not normally designed for this type of switching, hence it is normally in the closed position before the switching operation at the DC occurs.

Similarly for when you switch off - the switching is done at the DC, not at the GPO.

My advice? Don't do it, or, if you must, use a normal contactor, without the no-volt fail relay fitted to it. But, get a qualified electrician to do it!

You really need to read this article on electrical fatalities, showing 15 deaths per year - scary!

Hi
As I said before I have bypassed my switch as the DC is situated outside. I have a 10amp pull cord switch located above my table saw so that it is handy to switch on and off. I also use the dc for mt bandsaw, buzzer and a home made drumsander. So the coed operated pull switch gets a lot of use, have had no problems so far with about 2 years of use. I did upgrade my DC last year again no problems. I say again if you dont understand how to bypass the switch get an electrician to do it.

Cheers Jerryj

I have a remote control from Rockby Electronics, modified with the addition of a relay by a kind forum member. The remote sits on whatever machine I am using at the time and all it takes is a press of the button to switch it on.

As these have the ability to control up to 8 devices I also use it to switch my radio on/off as well as some lights.

I overcame the problem of the no volt switch by swapping the dusty switch with my MC900 lathe switch (since sold), but you could just buy a suitable switch (the older on/off switches without the no volt feature) from Carbatec or H&F)

pretty neat, Fred Imagine having the workshop all warmed up, powered up and radio blaring, compressor full of air and dusty running before leaving the comfort of the lounge

All you need now is some auto control of the table saw and you can do it all while watching the cricket

A couple of these and a plate over the top , working well. But it doesn't suck as well as the Timbecon did.
Timbecon was made in Taiwan and the Carbatec is made in China don't know if that makes any different.

I did the same as Big Shed Fred and have dusty plugged into remote adapter that I bought from Jaycar. Came with 3 remote outlets and remote control for about $45. Also have compresser plugged into one and carry remote in top pocket while in shed. that way you don't get lazy and use machinery without dust collector running. Found it a pain to walk to back of shed and turn on each time a dust making machine ran for 10 secs. Now there is no excuse.
David