Thread: Cheap shop vac going from masters

If it's anything like the Aldi one I wouldn't bother. Borrowed a friend's one while we were renovating; lots of noise, very little suction.
Oh well, you get what you pay for.

I don't think you will have any problems. I bought the 1600 watt version about 18 months ago (don't think the 1800 watt was available then).
I am very happy with mine - no problems and the suction is extremely good even with a Dust Deputy connected. The only thing missing is an automatic start when switching on an orbital sander or other small power tool.

i have this one, i think...mine has a blower function too but i never use it.
https://www.masters.com.au/product/1...ry-vacuum-grey

I managed to burn the first one out within 2 1/2 months. i only use it connected to the orbital or router, and the ocasional cleanup inside the panel saw. i didnt open it up, but I believe i burnt out the brushes and then it started a lil fire inside and melted other bits n pieces. such is life. i asked for my money back, but masters chose to replace it instead which is fair enough. it sucks pretty good, wouldnt wanna put your eyeball near it.

Originally Posted by safari

The only thing missing is an automatic start when switching on an orbital sander or other small power tool.

That's actually not much of a big deal at all if you apply a solution. In fact I have tool triggering on my vac and almost never use it (but do like it when I want it). I have mine plugged into a remote control socket, and just put the tool into the wall socket. That way i can start and stop the vac when I want to, which is often a longer after tool duration than the tool take off gives.

Moreover, if I have several (say) chop saw cuts I can just leave the vac on, which is actually less aggravating for all concerned than a constant stop start of the vac.

Yeah, my current (small) unit is the same brand, no complaints apart from too small a tank! Well, the blower outlet is annoying to use too, but I use a separate battery powered blower anyway.

Originally Posted by safari

I don't think you will have any problems. I bought the 1600 watt version about 18 months ago (don't think the 1800 watt was available then).
I am very happy with mine - no problems and the suction is extremely good even with a Dust Deputy connected. The only thing missing is an automatic start when switching on an orbital sander or other small power tool.

An 1800W unit only allows for a 600 W power tool to be attached to the VC before exceeding the 2400W normally permitted for an appliance on a 10A GPO. As many power tools use more than 600W this would limit the range of tools that could be used safely anyway.

I don't have a lot of time for auto start DC switches anyway because auto start means auto off and any DC or VC should be run for many minutes after finishing with a power tool anyway to help clear the shed air of dust.

Vacuum cleaners have so many issues the only way I would consider using one as a main dust extractor is if the unit itself is located outside the shed and suitable ducting is provided inside the shed. Now 1800W comes in handy for the extra suck needed to help remove the air through longer sections of ducting.

How would one of these compare ; when used outside ( or in the roof space )
via ducting as mentioned by BobL

http://www.machineryhouse.com.au/W885

less power but bigger plumbing ! 100mm hose

and how about a dust separator or cyclone device in the line ?

Originally Posted by snapper1

How would one of these compare ; when used outside ( or in the roof space )
via ducting as mentioned by BobL

http://www.machineryhouse.com.au/W885

less power but bigger plumbing ! 100mm hose

and how about a dust separator or cyclone device in the line ?

With a 5 micron filter I wouldn't be using it in a roof space, but located outside and with a, say, 75mm inlet/outlet cyclone it would probably be a good thing.

Originally Posted by BobL

An 1800W unit only allows for a 600 W power tool to be attached to the VC before exceeding the 2400W normally permitted for an appliance on a 10A GPO. As many power tools use more than 600W this would limit the range of tools that could be used safely anyway.

I don't have a lot of time for auto start DC switches anyway because auto start means auto off and any DC or VC should be run for many minutes after finishing with a power tool anyway to help clear the shed air of dust.

Vacuum cleaners have so many issues the only way I would consider using one as a main dust extractor is if the unit itself is located outside the shed and suitable ducting is provided inside the shed. Now 1800W comes in handy for the extra suck needed to help remove the air through longer sections of ducting.

I mainly use it with a Festool 150/3 which is 310watts so there is spare capacity. I have also set up the Clearview ducting so that at the end of each branch I have a 6" end cap that can be removed so that any fine dust created by hand or machine sanding is quickly removed. That's the theory anyway.