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    Default Clearvue CVmax install and ducting

    Hey fellow woodies

    Ive ordered my new Clearvue CVmax which I will have in a few weeks and am planning my new dust extraction setup for my workshop. This could be a long thread from start to finish, but I’ll post photos as I go. (Before and after)

    CVmax with VFD and remote control
    ducting (clean) air outside through a baffle box
    225mm PVC main duct reducing to 150mm to machines, looking at Auto Blast Gates at main machines and manual at the lesser machines, then running 150mm to work benches with bell mouth openings for dusty hand work
    also install 3 x 200mm in-line fans venting outside to clean air in work areas.

    A couple of questions I need your assistance with.

    1. I have a Sherwood 16” spiral head thickenesser and want to change the dust port to 150mm - anyone done this and can share?
    2. Same with my Sherwood 200mm planner - this seems an easier job but ideas are welcome
    3. I want to change the dust port on my Sawstop industrial - anyone done this and can share?
    4. Same with Sherwood twin drum sander On this one I’ll need to fabricate a twin hood to single 150mm inlet

    Getting pretty excited to get this done
    cheers

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    How much did the clear vue set you back? I got a quote for around $4k. Unsure if i want to pull the trigger on it so will watch this thread.

    Also need to open my machines to 150mm, so i can see a heap of customising with pvc in my future. Still trying to get it right on my sawstop contractors saw.

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    If you haven't seen it then I recommend this thread
    Improving machine cabinet dust ports

    This approach might suit your 16" Thicknesser
    Improving machine cabinet dust ports

    There are two basic approaches to doing these.
    1) cut open the existing port(s) to accept a larger port
    2) Completely remove the old port and replace it with a larger one.

    Something else to take into account especially for ports on a cabinet is that it's not much use just opening up the ports unless air can get into the machine so some added vents may be required. Its best to place the diametrically opposite the port(s)

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    Yeah haveabeer my quote is just over $4k with the VFD, but after lots of research it’s the best system for my setup. Venting it outside and reducing the dust is my main drive.

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    Thanks Bob, great reading I’ll be working through these ideas over the coming weeks/month to open up the ports as best I can for air flow.

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    Hi Tuckers, congratulations on your Clearvue purchase, you won’t be disappointed.Just a suggestion if I may, glider (on the forum) has just completed his Clearvue and Auto Blast Gate installation and he might be a good person for you to contact? He also has a system with a 235/250mm ducting backbone and 150mm autoblastgates at each input point.I have also just converted all of my machines to 150mm dust extraction ports and I have been threatening to put them on the thread suggested by BobL ...... but I haven’t yet. To give you a few ideas, here are my conversions for thicknesser, drum sander and jointer.

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    As an explanation (and so that you don’t have to trawl all the way through the ‘fletty’s shed’ thread to find the details, I have my machines in a separate boutique bay (=small!) and so I have my 150mm duct mounted to a swinging boom and I simply park the machine in use within reach of the boom and plug the duct to the vertical outlets that you can see in the photos above. My table saw and mitre saw are also converted to dedicated 150mm outlets.fletty
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    Alan you got other work to do..... champing at the bit down here.
    I would love to grow my own food, but I can not find bacon seeds

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tonyz View Post
    Alan you got other work to do..... champing at the bit down here.
    Dead ON SCHEDULE mate, just need a piggy back to the finish line ...........
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    Quote Originally Posted by fletty View Post
    Hi Tuckers, congratulations on your Clearvue purchase, you won’t be disappointed.Just a suggestion if I may, glider (on the forum) has just completed his Clearvue and Auto Blast Gate installation and he might be a good person for you to contact? He also has a system with a 235/250mm ducting backbone and 150mm autoblastgates at each input point.
    G'day Tuckers,

    You've made a great choice with the ClearVue Max. Here's the post describing my journey ClearVue installation with Auto Blast Gates We discovered a few traps for young travellers along the way which I'd be happy to share with you via PM. In the meantime, a few thoughts not covered in my thread.

    1. I used graph paper and scaled cutouts of my machine footprints to plan the optimum configuration for the ducting. Planning for input/output distances, feed direction and availability of power all added to the complexity. Others told me that I was likely to change the ducting within a short time, but that hasn't been necessary so far. It all works fine.
    2. The ClearVue is unbelievably noisy. I plumped for a separate shed standing about 500mm off the back wall of my corrugated workshop. The nearside wall has acoustic insulwool between the studs and 12mm thick AngelStep acoustic matting over the top which reduces the sound but it still travels up the ducting; so I only use the dusty when needed.
    3. The stacked height of the motor/impeller/cyclone/sealed dust box is >2400 mm so you'll need enough stud height to fit it.
    4. The inlet into the cyclone is pitched upwards at about 7 degrees from memory. I installed the main duct line first which complicated the eventual precise fit into the cyclone inlet, so I recommend you start from the ClearVue end.
    5. Rather than mount the unit on the wall, we built a dedicated stand for the Clearvue which gave us some wriggle room to make the connection. Isolating the ClearVue from the wall and dyna-bolting the frame to the floor also reduced sound transmission.
    6. I had a remote start/stop button installed using a wart on the wall.

    mick

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    Thanks Fletty, looking forward to getting the job underway.

    your bigger dust ports look great, I’ll be using those ideas thanks

    yes I’m thinking I’ll need some help getting all the CVmax in along with the ducting all set up.

    all my machines are stationary so fixed ducting and blast gates.

    ive moved all my timber out of the workshop into a shipping container so have more room, am now planning the new layout of all my machines so I can then get the ducting planned out.

    ill post some progress shots

    Cheers
    Paul

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    Hi Mick

    thanks for the message, I have been going through your post, very nice setup.

    ill pm you some question I have once I get the CVmax and get started on the install.

    1. I’m getting ready to start laying out the machine templates to try getting the right layout, haven’t room around the machines to move the work trolleys and the ducting, that’s the hardest part so far.

    2. I’m a bit worried about the noise of the CVmax I keep hearing that is really noisy, the website says it’s only 78db at 3mtrs.....I have to have the unit inside the workshop as we have an Accommodation business on our property as well so need to keep the noise down at times. I’ll vent it outside. I like your idea of not having it fixed to the wall but making up a seperate frame and fixing that to the floor to reduce the noise, I’ll have that filled with acoustic batts and listed inside and out in acoustic board (Some air vents around the motor) then I’ll have it hooked to a switch so it’s only on when I need it.

    3. I’ve got a height of 3300 where it’s going so all good
    4. I did notice that, I’ll get the cyclone in then Do the ducting I think
    6. Yes I’m going to get a remote as well

    ill PM you with some more questions

    Cheers
    paul

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    Question on the waste drum for a Clearvue

    I use plastic bags as it’s the easiest way for me to get rid of the waste, can I make a drum and put bags in or do I need to do something special to the drum to stop the bag getting sucked into the cyclone?

    i have a small hate & fires cyclone and there is a pipe running from the cyclone to the bottom of the waste bin

    cheers

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    You can use bags but you must have some kind of cage to keep the bag from being sucked into the cyclone. There is also the possibility of the bag leaking where it seals to the lid. That can cause the fine dust to go to the filters.

    Pete

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tuckers View Post
    Question on the waste drum for a Clearvue

    I use plastic bags as it’s the easiest way for me to get rid of the waste, can I make a drum and put bags in or do I need to do something special to the drum to stop the bag getting sucked into the cyclone?

    i have a small hate & fires cyclone and there is a pipe running from the cyclone to the bottom of the waste bin

    cheers
    ”hate and fires”..............

    Once again I suggest you confirm with glider who has made a wheeled bin for dust disposal but I don’t think he lines it with a bag? My ‘hate and fires’ also has a bleed hose and the logic of that appears to be to equalise the vacuum on both sides of the bag so that it doesn’t get sucked through?
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    Well my Clearvue max has arrived along with some ducting......now to start the assembly


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