Cyclone research & importing an Oneida

**TP1** · 27th November 2010, 07:01 PM

Originally Posted by socratous

It's interesting to hear about your stories dealin with Oneida... I contacted them about 4 months ago and was told that the items that carbatec stock, they will not send here direct. I mentioned the possibility of them sending the super dust deputy to a friend of mine in the USA so that she may post it on to me here in Adelaide as to 1, avoid their rediculous freight costs and 2 avoid paying Carbatec $550 for what I could get done at a sheet metal fabricator for less than 1/2 of that!!!

To my suprise, I got a further reply from Oneida stating their disbelief at the price Carbatec is retailing them for as they didn't pay anywhere near that per unit for the quantities they purchased, even factoring in freight.

You have no idea how much fun you can have trying to negotiate a price (especially when you are a sales rep!) when you know a retailers cost price

Carbatec operate franchise type arrangements with some of their stores. They would import the Oneida gear cheap, take a hefty markup on sales to the retail stores who in turn need to make a profit. This means there are 2 middlemen imposed between Oneida and the customer.

The problem is that even the Taiwan/ China made motorized models are sold here at greatly inflated prices when compared to the same models sold overseas. There is no competition from other importers or Aussie manufacturers in this market segment so Carbatec can do what they like.

**GraemeCook** · 28th November 2010, 12:00 PM

Good Morning All

I thought a couple of the forum members were being a little precious in their comments on pricing by carbatec so I had a look at the oneida website in USA.
Oneida Air Systems - Dust Deputy

Prices are:

* DIY Dust Deputy (Cyclone only, no bucket or hoses) - US $59 . Not catalogued by Carbatec.

* De Luxe Kit (Includes cyclone, bucket and hoses) - US$99 - Carbatec Aus$189.

* Ultimate kit (Includes cyclone, big square box and hoses) - US$249. carbatec Aus$449.

* Super Dust Deputy (Larger cyclone only) - US$219. carbatec Aus$549.

As soon as you mention Australia Oneida just refers you to Carbatec!

Pacific freight must be expensive!!!

Cheers

Graeme

**Wongo** · 28th November 2010, 12:12 PM

Correct. Freight for the super deputy is more than the cost of the super deputy itself. That is why I got it from CT.

**dugjac** · 28th November 2010, 02:44 PM

But they do post to MYUS.com which is where I got mine sent along with other items, the only problem is that dimensional weight applies to the super dust deputy, still worked out $100 cheaper than buying from CT

**Chris Parks** · 28th November 2010, 03:57 PM

Originally Posted by GraemeCook

Pacific freight must be expensive!!!

Cheers

Graeme

You have no idea. On a one off basis via UPS a Clearvue cyclone with motor fan etc costs about $1000 AUD in freight, customs and UPS rip off charges. I will post more on this later in another thread. The first quote was $1200 FREIGHT ONLY plus other charges.

**GraemeCook** · 28th November 2010, 05:21 PM

Originally Posted by Wongo

Correct. Freight for the super deputy is more than the cost of the super deputy itself. That is why I got it from CT.

Thanks Wongo

Found a USA site that will ship an Oneida Dust Deputy de Luxe (the smaller cyclone with bucket and hoses). - Rockler Woodworking & Hardware.

US$99.99 Oneida Dust Deputy De Luxe.
----73.65 Priority Mail International (7-21 days delivery to Aus)
US$173.64 TOTAL
------8.68 Credit Card Exchange Fees (say 5%)
Aus$182.32 Approximate Cost landed in Aus.

This is remarkably close to the Carbatec price of $189.

Wonder if the freight rates are similar for the larger Super Dust Deputy??

Cheers

Graeme

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