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    Hi, folks
    I'm new to this forum, and came here because I am looking to make a cyclone separator for my workshop.

    Way back in 2007 there was a lot of stuff posted here by Sturdee, Gumby and others talking about the adaptation of a Triton dust bucket, which looks and sounds like it will exactly suit my needs. I found the threads easily enough, but all the embedded links are dead, and all attachments, photos, diagrams, etc are gone - or, at least, I can't see them. OK, it was a long time ago, and of course stuff has to be purged. But can this stuff still be found anywhere?

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    Back in 2012 there was a software upgrade to the forums during which most of teh pictures were lost - gone - not recoverable.

    A question for you is, what type of duct extractor are you proposing to connect the cyclone to?

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    Quote Originally Posted by BobL View Post
    Back in 2012 there was a software upgrade to the forums during which most of teh pictures were lost - gone - not recoverable.

    A question for you is, what type of duct extractor are you proposing to connect the cyclone to?
    Shame about the loss...maybe someone has the files somewhere and can re-post them, but I guess if that hasn't happened in the last ten years there can't be that much interest.

    Oh, well, there appear to be a lot of different youtube solutions, it's just that this one sounded like the Goldilocks solution for me.

    What type of dust extractor? Just a normal shop vacuum cleaner which gets attached to saws, concrete grinders, sanders (gyprock and timber) and general vacuuming and trying to keep as much of the rubbish out of the vacuum cleaner bags and filters as possible...

    thanks for your interest..
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    Quote Originally Posted by Romano View Post
    Shame about the loss...maybe someone has the files somewhere and can re-post them, but I guess if that hasn't happened in the last ten years there can't be that much interest.
    Unfortunately no - they are mostly gone - deleted - vanished - forever lost

    About 2000 of my forum images were lost but I have managed to repost a few hundred in some of my more popular threads.
    It's a lot of work to so this but fortunately I keep most of mine sorted by year and topic (I keep copies at home and also at my sons place) so they are not hard to find but it is a PITA to reinsert them.
    I had an image loss with about 400 of my 2011 images missing from a backup disc, and they weren't on the backup disc at my sons olace - can't


    Oh, well, there appear to be a lot of different youtube solutions, it's just that this one sounded like the Goldilocks solution for me.
    What type of dust extractor? Just a normal shop vacuum cleaner which gets attached to saws, concrete grinders, sanders (gyprock and timber) and general vacuuming and trying to keep as much of the rubbish out of the vacuum cleaner bags and filters as possible...
    Hopefully someone on these forums can remember what you are after.

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    See this thread - Dust commander dlx esd mkii - these small cyclones perform so much better than any dust bucket baffle design. Mount the cyclone on a 15 or 20 litre ring lock paint tin, connect it up to your vac and you're away. Tip shops and the discard area at your local vacuum specialist are a good source of hoses. Rubber plumbing fittings/reducers can attach to most hoses and the cyclone.

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    Hi,
    I made this recently with a cyclone/hose kit from ebay.. performs extremely well indeed.




    I can not take any credit for the design of the caddy - this was found on YT.

    BTW inside the white dust bucket I installed a reinforcing ring of 9mm MDF about 1/2 way up from the bottom to prevent the bucket from collapsing under the vacuum. The bucket appears strong enough but I am risk adverse

    Cheers
    Mal

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    Sturdee is still around so you could try a private message to him to see if he still has pictures that he would share with you.

    Pete

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    I have a similar setup to Draconus just with a smaller cyclone, also from ebay.

    I have used the triton bucket for a while previous to this setup but the problem I kept getting was as the filter in the dust bucket became more blocked, especially with the smaller particles from fine sanding, the vac would collapse the bucket.

    Cheers

    Bryan

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    Here is one I did years ago. Then a few years later I put a small cyclone on the same drum. You can get the cyclones on ebay for about $30. I dont know if the cyclone was all that much of an improvement to be honest as version one worked quite well.
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    orraloon, the reason you'd be finding the cyclone not much better is because the piece of ply you've got it mounted on is far too thick to allow proper operation of the incoming and outgoing air streams. If you mount it on a metal or plastic lid no more than 3mm thick you'll notice a very significant improvement.

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    Time to get another lid then.
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    Or you could just cut a bigger hole in your existing top, 150 to 200mm dia. should do, and screw a metal or plastic panel on to it.

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    Google such things - plenty of basic physics involved Much can be done with basic materials and equipment -good design -you tube can be you're friend.

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