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25th August 2007, 09:23 PM #1
DC ducting is up and running
Spent today putting the finishing touches to the DC ducting.
All 100mm from the DC using 45deg bends throughout, only a short piece of 100mm hose connects DC to upright duct.
Made some straps from 25x5mm flat as well as one long stay from 20mm tube with the ends flattened.
The rubber lined 100mm brackets were obtained from my favourite salvage place, a set of 2 as per photo was a princely $3!
Did some cutting on the tablesaw, dust collection has improved out of sight, to the point where there is no dust coming out the front slot.
Extra outlet at end is for router table and/or bandsaw. Still have to make another connection for the 15" thicknesser, but want to use that first to see how collection works at that end.
Next job is to tun it into a 2 stage system, and at a later date a cyclone will be added.
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25th August 2007, 11:04 PM #2
G'day Big Shed,
Very impressive. The plumbing you've used there, is it metal? Your t/saw there, the top looks clean as a whistle, mines already copped a few surface scratches, but then your shed floor is also clean as to.
Seeing those long rails there makes me envious.
I've got to get a pleated bag one day, running MDF through the saw a lot leaks out of the standard bag on the Dusty.
You've now begun the journey down the slippery slope of a shed and ever growing plumbing on your Dusty, every time you go down to the shed now you'll be thinking of where, how much room and what next should you hook up to the Dusty.
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25th August 2007, 11:12 PM #3
Nice!
Cheers<>
Hi, my name is Glenn and I'm a tool-o-holic, it's been 32 minutes since I last bought a tool......
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25th August 2007, 11:16 PM #4
Plumbing is standard 100mm PVC sewage pipe, but I have sprayed it with silver paint as the pipes had been laying outside for a few years and looked cr*p. Just my obsessive compulsive nature!
Shed floor is clean in the picture as I took it at the end of the dya and had just swept and vacuumed. Tablesaw top looks better on the photo than in real life, there are some minor scratches, but I'm sure there will be more. Have done more work on the shed, dusty etc, than on the tablesaw so far. SWMBO already made a pointed remark about what I am going to be making next this arvo!
That pleated filter cartridge seems to be very good, have cut some MDF as well as some treated pine, and nothing has escaped so far. Time will tell. The bag that came with the dusty hasn't been used and probably never will be.
Yes, I am already on the slippery slope, hence my remark about extending the ducting!
One of the jobs to be completed is to make an extension table between those long rails, I think you can see it standing in the background.
Also have to finish my woodracks.
Maybe one day I will start on the CD cabinet, SWMBO will be pleased
How's Kylie coping, doing well so far?
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25th August 2007, 11:35 PM #5
G'day BigShed,
I like it, I've got a thing for chrome/silver things - but I don't think SWMBO would like me weilding cans of silver paint spraying all the plumbing. If her car is anything to bo by which is always covered in a layer of dust - her car might cop the same but with a sliver tint to it. Oops
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26th August 2007, 09:25 AM #6
Nice One Big Shed Very neat looking job. Well done.
As Waldo has said You've now begun the journey down the slippery slope there is no turning back now.Regards
Al .
You don't know, what you don't know, until you know it.
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26th August 2007, 10:40 AM #7Awaiting Email Confirmation
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Well done BigShed, With the TS on wheels a being connected to dusty, do you disconnect if moving it?
les
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26th August 2007, 10:45 AM #8
Yes, if you look at the end where the big hose from the tablesaw connects to the duct/blast gate, I have used a screw-in/push on connector from Carbatec. One end screws into the 100mm hose, the other end tapers slightly and is a push fit on to the blast gate.
They were described by fletty here.
Only difference with mine is that it is un-modified and a direct push on ft on to the standard blast gate.
Can post a picture if you want.
They are also a direct push on fit on to the thicknesser, bandsaw and the dust extraction port to be added to the router table.
No hose clamps required.
The hose to the blade is also a push on connector.Last edited by Big Shed; 26th August 2007 at 10:56 AM. Reason: Added link
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26th August 2007, 11:01 AM #9Awaiting Email Confirmation
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Thanks Big Shed that solves my problem,very neat.
I have been moving the DC between tools as I have to move all my gear every night so to park the ute, and I hadn't figured out how to do it.
les
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Hi Big Shed,
I have searched but I can't find the answer so over to you.
I am setting up my machinery to measure the PVC pipe etc, but if I connect TS, thicknesser, bandsaw, router, planer, etc. Now I turn on DC and TS but all the others are off so the sucking is reduced by all the other inlets. How do I do it.?
thanks
les
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28th August 2007, 10:15 AM #11
Les, quite simple really, it is called a blast gate. They come in the $99 DC hose and fitting kit or can be bought separately from Carbatec et al.
I have put up some pictures of my connections. First one shows 2 blast gates connected to a T connector also from the kit (don't let the colour put you off, I sprayed it silver). The collars connecting the T piece to the blast gates are a short piece of 100mm pipe cut length ways on the bandsaw with a small section removed so it makes a tight fit on both the blast gate and the T piece, join is siliconed up (what did we do before silicone?)
You can also see the screw in/push on connectors mentioned above.
To fit the blast gate to the end of a line, I use the in-built collar from the end of a 100mm pipe, but you also use a female 100mm fitting, cut a bit of 100mm hose which is a very neat push into the female end. Then the blast gate is a neat push fit into the hose, 3 or 4 little screws holds it all together. Bit "heath robinson" but it works for me.
I have the 2hp DC-3 dusty from H&F and with only the 2 tablesaw blast gates open it has plenty of suction.
Hope that helps, any more questions, just ask.
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28th August 2007, 10:29 AM #12
Nice one, Big Shed.
What sort of connection have you got to your blade guard. I've got a fancy saw, but it doesn't have the facility to connect a hose. And it would be much better with one. Did you go after market, or was your blade guard set up for it?"... it is better to succeed in originality than to fail in imitation" (Herman Melville's letters)
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28th August 2007, 10:53 AM #13
Jaspr, yes the blade guard was set up for dust collection and came with the black adapter (40 to 65mm I think).
Connecting the blade guard to the DC has made an enormous difference, it is amazing how much dust escapes from there without it.
Quite happy about the whole DC system now, all that remains is to find a more flexible 65mm hose.
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28th August 2007, 11:29 AM #14
Sheddy,
isn't there an issue with Static Discharge from PVC ducting? Or have you grounded it somehow??
Seems like every second opinion is that PVC is a bad idea and every commercial setup is metal pipework. Or am I off the mark here???
Timbernut
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28th August 2007, 11:34 AM #15