Thread: Dust Collector

If their anything like my corgi's they'll be to fat & lazy to even want to go anywhere near the dust collector!

The tails could be a problem Shane, ours are Cardigans not Pembroke.
Only 2 years old and still active (but solid).
Not sure about the reverse switch, imagine the damage caused by an ejected Corgi....
bit like a large furry champagne cork

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Reminds me of a friend who at the request of her indoors hunted out a mouse from behind a dresser with the houshold vac.
The mouse got stuck in the wand.
Clearance was obtained by connecting to the blow outlet.
Verry messy but got the job done.


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A friend of mine has suggested converting a portable evaporative cooler to a dust extractor, by removing the water cooling system and pump etc. Has anyone tried this?
Any comments regarding this idea would be greatly welcomed. The goal would be to remove the residual dust lingering in the air as all major equipment has dust extraction available.

tia

Paul Kane

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Picked up the 1hp unit today, one hour assembly and alls well, quiet aren't they
Cost $259.00 and there was a another one similar for $292.00, I thought the only difference was 1m of hose but it turns out it is actually a floor vac and when the hose is connected to the base you push it aroiund the floor to clean up, he's still got a heap left and they are good value.
I made sue my unit had metal blades as I think they will ensure a longer life with the bit of crud that ping through them, including little bits of metal on the floor.
All I need now is a floor sweeper and I will probably fabricate that from some of the ply I have laying aroung the place, shouldn't be that hard.
Paul, I have considered doing what you are talking about and I have the blower unit out of a wall furnace I have just removed, I think it could work well with a variety of filter materials available.
Cheaper than a 'bought' one.
Just what material to use for a filter????
or maybe just vent it outside the workshop.
By the way, your Fly's undone (I'm sure Paul will understand and it's not an insult )

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Iain,

Wheredyagetit ?

I remember a few years ago these things usually went for $400 odd bucks (1HP). At the time I decided to have a go and build my own as I had a suitable motor lying about.

Thing works and sucks well but generates a bit of a roar. I suspect the shaped blades of the commercial units help a lot in this regard.

At $259 I may almost be tempted to upgrade to a real machine

Cheers Ray

Now to get it hooked up to your Thicknesser and test driven...we await your response.

Tight seal on the M/c you're drawing off of is naturally essential.100mm hose clamps are'nt cheap but do the job ...failing that Iain plastic ties used in the electrical industry will suffice.You find that if you have a dip in the suction hose the heavier chips will sit there and an occasional lifting of the hose will sort this out.

Watch out for stray pussies
Cheers:0

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Johnno

Ray, I posted this a few weeks ago.
This is a wholesaler going out of business, all his machinery is Taiwan and seems to be good quality.
Phone 9761 8087. Based in Kilsyth Melbourne outer east.
These are the same machines that retail for $400++++ but be quick as he is closing up at the end of the month.
I got a vertical 2 bag unit that runs an induction moto, there is a cheaper under bench one bag model but is noisy with a brush motor.
John, I will get some clamps but will bear in mind the ties and Pussy is never a problem here, never get any stray .
Just beware the Corgi.
Will try to hook up at the weekend after the bloody never ending horse events, God I wish she was 18 and could drive herself there.

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Iain,

OK, it wasn't clear that you got the items from said wholesaler. Kilsyth is bout 100k's for me so I'll have a good think about that sort of journey through/across Melbourne....
Is he a weekday only man being a wholesaler ?

Re induction vs brush motors. Yes give me an induction motor any day over a brush motor, especially in "stationary" machines, Those brush things scream like banshees
That's the beauty of a real dust extractor, it is pretty damn quite as opposed to your vacuum cleaner, so your more inclined to leave it running


Cheers Ray

Went to purple pig today and got 3m of 100mm hose ($50 with clamps), hooked it up and went like a charm, no worries and just the odd chip slung out the back of the planer.
Picks up I would say 95%+ and very happy with it.
Walked around the floor afterwards carrying the hose and gave the floor a clean, apart from discovering that its concrete it worked really well and got the lot.
Picked up a metal lid about 3" across that was buried in sawdust, bit of a clatter but no real problems, not that I will do that intentionally.
Nice and quiet and am really pleased with the results.
Ray, he works 7 days a week and is closing down the machinery side of the business and going into another business.
He's got two bloody great machinery sheds at the side of his property and its full of WW gear, all brand new.
Anyone thinking of going in afterhours without the checkbook, he's got two huge bloody dogs that are bigger than my horses.
I checked some of the model numbers on the gear and it is the same as other peoples numbers, eg Planer CT344 same as Carbtecs but with a different name.

Interesting Article in the "Australian Wood Review" on page 4 regarding an Australian produced Bin Chief Portable Dust Collector.

Not exactly cheap ... it may suit some set-ups but at around $1400 a lot of thought has to be given on an outlay for this unit.

Different than the usual bag over/bag under..this set-up uses a wheelie bin to expel the product from 9 anti static bag filters, the fan unit being a separate unit has to be moved around to accommodate.

For mine I think for that sort of outlay I'm more than happy to stick with my arrangement at more than 1/2 the cost of that judging by the review.
Cheers

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Johnno

On the subject of dust extractors, I have found an easy way to make the connection to and from machines.

Go to a plumbers supply and get a 100mm pan connecter. For those that don't know, a pan connector is how they attach a crapper onto a sewer inlet.

The beauty of this is that it has a rubber sheet inside which will happilly stretch and fit over other lengths of 100mm pipe, or even smaller diameters and stay airtight. (Fortunately for its intended application )

Even better, your 100mm flexible hose will slip over the back of the pan connector and stay in place with some duct tape (get some of that too) very very neatly.

Been using this method for over a year now and very satisfied. You will get a bit of chip build up within the connector, but leave the blower on and pull the joint apart and the chips will vanish with very little assistance.

Cheers Ray

Because Iains post hasn't 'flamed out' yet I thought that I'd add another thought with his intended use of the dust extractor(and one that came from another BB} which is to duct the area he has with blast gates ..taking the dust collector unit outside if possible and external to the workshop with the ducting exhausting thru an external wall with the fines of the dust of a 'choked' bag.
This serves two purposes if feasible within his location and that is one.. saving space that the collector takes up and also removing the dust to an external area even where one may become 'lax' in cleaning the bag.
Whilst this may not be a choice for Iain,it may be a choice to consider for those contemplating a dust extractor set-up.

Cheers

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Johnno

I have thought abouth this, but, always a but isn't there?.
Is there 'line loss' so to speak over an extended run?
Don't want to spend a fortune putting in ducting only to find out the DC won't work.
Found a problem with my DC too.
The motor sits on a metal cylinder and there is a cooling fan on the bottom of the motor.
On the base of the trolley os a corresponding hole to allow airflow.
One morning I was cleaning the floor and dragged the unit behind me while it was running, suddenly there was a horrible noise and I turned it off.
Quick check found that it had sucked up an old Bunnies bag of the floor and into the fan.
Bunnies have struck again.