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    Default Dust Extraction Noise reduction help please

    I have a very noisy Dust Extractor (Felder AF22 with pleated filter 140mm suction to equipment) in the corner of my shed.

    I am definitely in unchartered waters here so any help would be greatly appreciated.

    I have been researching sound proofing materials and found that 8kg Mass Loaded Vinyl 8 mm thick looks pretty good.

    I am thinking of building a compartment or box around the whole Unit
    The design of this whole unit baffles me.
    Questions that come to mind are as follows.

    With the whole structure including top it would be like complete sealed type small room and where and what size would the vent be?
    What amount of noise comes out of the vent and how do I reduce it.
    I would build it with a door so as I can rotate the cleaning brushes on pleated filter and empty dust bags.

    I am thinking of building the structure from say 18mm plywood and putting the MLV vinyl on the inside.

    Does any of this make any sense

    Thanks in advance for any ideas

    Woody

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    get your dust extractor outside for a start. Build an outdoor cupboard for it.
    spend time on the stickys on this section.
    I would love to grow my own food, but I can not find bacon seeds

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    I would suggest you do search on the forum this subject has been discussed many times.

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    Thanks Tonyz but putting it outside unfortunately is not an option

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    Yes China I will have another closer look at previous threads

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    I had a very loud extractor until I fitted the Muffler that came with it . It surprised me how well it worked . Here's a picture of it . Its mostly just a single skin thin Galvanized sheet metal part that bolts on . Making something like it in masonite or MDF should be fine for inside a room. I'm sure it could be improved as well by adding more to it probably.

    IMG_8234aaa.jpg

    Its just a rectangular tube on the inside except in the vertical section the walls step out and the two step out sections are filled with some sort of fiberglass insuwool looking stuff (Behind the dotted red lines) and are covered by a skin of the same Galvanised sheet, but its perforated with many fine holes . Around 2mm I think and maybe about 15 or 20mm apart. Not exactly sure but I could look again . What do the holes do ? Break up the bouncing sound ? I don't know, and would just bird wire be as good ? Exposing more of the wool ? Maybe .
    So its double skinned either side of the wool material but the rest is single skin Gal sheet . I would imagine doing it all double skinned and having the wool on four sides would be better.

    That 90 degree bend in the top section(Red line ) has a curved piece of Gal sheet to ease the flow around the internal corner.

    If you went down to the ground and back up to the top with a home made duct cabinet like this attached to the end wall surrounding the Felder that doesn't restrict the flow Id think you could vent it outside and no one would hear it .

    You might not be able to put the unit outside but as Bob or someone else here is going to start telling you, venting it outside is the next best thing from that for your lungs .

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    FWIW A muffler will only work on a cyclone.

    If you have to house your DC inside your shed build a sound reducing cupboard inside the shed and put the DC inside that and then if possible vent the cupboard outside the shed.

    Plenty of examples in the Dust forum.

    If you cannot vent the DC outside let the DC vent back into the shed and use forced ventilation to remove escaped fine dust.
    Use exhaust fans that generate 20 room changes per hour.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BobL View Post
    FWIW A muffler will only work on a cyclone.
    I"m just suggesting to muffle the vent that's attached to the cabinet that contains the Felder AF22

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    Quote Originally Posted by auscab View Post
    I"m just suggesting to muffle the vent that's attached to the cabinet that contains the Felder AF22
    Sorry _ didn't read all of your post

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    Quote Originally Posted by BobL View Post
    Sorry _ didn't read all of your post
    No Probs Bob

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    Thank you Auscab for your informative detailed reply. I have since searched web and found a company that builds custom size Mufflers and sent them email on there specs. I think its an excellent idea. Hopefully they will get back to me this week.
    Cheers

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    Thank you Bob for your advice. I have been through so many previous posts on this Forum today and gained much more knowledge. I believe it was you that said (if I build an enclosed compartment inside shed) I need a vent twice the size of my inlet which was what I needed to know. I will vent it outside. Unfortunately I couldn't look at photos as they don't work any more I suppose they are too old but not to worry I think I have enough info now.
    Thanks to all who replied for your assistance
    Woody

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    Many Thanks Bob

    Great information about Baffle Box requirements.

    Woody

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