Thread: Dust Extractor

[quote=lateral;523904]Hi Guys

I am totally redoing my workshop with new benches, shelves and cabinets and want to do the best I can regarding dust extraction. I have a number of power tools including Triton workbench and Bosch SCMS, Trition Router tabel and a few other items.

I am thinking of installing a Carbatec Carba-Tec 2hp Tradesman Extractor and running some plastic pipe (90mm?) up the wall and across the ceiling and having various spots where I can connect a flexible hose that then attaches to the piece of equipment. As I move each piece out of the way when not in use, this will provide me with a fair amount of flexibility.

Does anyone know of any restriction regarding the length of the run of the plastic pipe? I will probably have maybe 4 or 5 "spots" and the total length of the pipe will be about 30 metres.

Any thoughts as to the viability of doing it this way?

Thanks for any help you can provide.

Regards
Greg


Hi Lateral,
There are many many posts on this and I suggest you do a search and read them at your leisure. Most forumites have dust collection setups from the elaborate to weekend warrior and so by searching you can chose the responses and suggestions that come closest your needs.
My setup uses 100mm PVC pipe for fixed runs across the ceiling and 100 mm flexible drops to the machines but it sounds like your setup mightn't need the same volume of chip and dust removal.
Good luck and happy reading,
Fletty
PS, be warned, 20 woodies will have 20 opinions on dust collection .... and 40 on sharpening (so don't go there!)
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Thanks Fletty

I would rather over engineer the configuration at have too much "sucking power" that not enough.

What type/brand of Dust Extractor are you using?

What is the "sucking power"?

How long is the run/s of PVC pipe?

Does reducing from 100mm to 90mm increase the sucking power?

Thanks
Regards
Greg

I suggest you have a look at the video of the Mini Cyclone. (see the video section)

This has been discussed many times in here but 2HP DC is for larger machinery, not powered hand tools. You can't successfully reduce the pipe down to the size required by a sander for example.

For those, you need a shop vac and narrower pipe to create faster airflow than the larger DC's produce.

Do a search on this topic before you go and buy your dusty.

Yeah, what he said ;-}

The DCs are for high volume low pressure applications. Your gear sounds like you need the reverse so a good shop vac might be best.

I stepped down a 2hp dusty to a 2" hose and it was useless.

Do a google for Bill Pentz site on dust collection. It'll tell you more than you needed to know and then some.

Workshops evolve so tape rather than glue your joins.

Good luck. Tell us how you go.

Originally Posted by rsser

Yeah, what he said ;-}

Workshops evolve so tape rather than glue your joins.

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Originally Posted by lateral

Hi Guys

I am totally redoing my workshop with new benches, shelves and cabinets and want to do the best I can regarding dust extraction. I have a number of power tools including Triton workbench and Bosch SCMS, Trition Router tabel and a few other items.

I am thinking of installing a Carbatec Carba-Tec 2hp Tradesman Extractor and running some plastic pipe (90mm?) up the wall and across the ceiling and having various spots where I can connect a flexible hose that then attaches to the piece of equipment. As I move each piece out of the way when not in use, this will provide me with a fair amount of flexibility.

Does anyone know of any restriction regarding the length of the run of the plastic pipe? I will probably have maybe 4 or 5 "spots" and the total length of the pipe will be about 30 metres.

Any thoughts as to the viability of doing it this way?

Thanks for any help you can provide.

Regards
Greg
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Greg

I am a relatively new member to this site, but dust collection is one of my main issues in shop safety. My shop is in a 2 car garage (shed) and I have a 3HP Oneida Cyclone. There are many issues with dust collection, I would suggest taking the time to read over the material at the Oneida site, in particular duct design and the tutorial on selecting pipe size. The only problem I have had with my system to date is the disappearance of one small dog and two cats.

Heather

http://www.oneida-air.com/

Originally Posted by rsser

Yeah, what he said ;-}Workshops evolve so tape rather than glue your joins.

Good luck. Tell us how you go.

G'day,

I'll second Rsser's comments. I think my plumbing has gone through 3 evolutions now and there may be a 4th to go yet.

Yeah, if I follow the rules I prolly should scrap everything I've done and restart with a 6" main stepped down to 4" lines for all machines except the jointer/thicknesser.

Think I'll wait 'til the shop changes again!

Hi Greg

As Fletty has said do a search of the forum as there are many great ideas and setups of dust collection systems.

https://www.woodworkforums.com/f64/woodwork-forums-16776
There are several really good threads regarding dust collection (Scroll down to the Dust Collection section)

http://billpentz.com/woodworking/cyc...yclonePlan.cfm
Bill Pentz's site offers lots of really great information for anyone thinking dust collection.

Originally Posted by rsser

Workshops evolve so tape rather than glue your joins.

Now someone tells me!

Mine's been re-arranged mentally so many times that, when it comes time to actually do it, I think I'll settle for a big wind-tunnel fan at one end of the shed and a soccer net at t'other, to catch anything that's not bolted down.

What can go wrong with just one big 2x6m duct!?

LOL.

Bernie Kiyabu used to turn in a smallish garage open at both ends with a big fan pointed at the lathe.

Worked well. Except in winter.