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26th June 2009, 12:16 PM #1Member
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mini cyclone and vacuum help
Hi,
Ive been reading with interest the posts on these subjects and plan on building a mini cyclone using a couple of buckets or paint tins and a funnel as it seems many of you have. I intend to use it for vacuuming up during renovating as well as connecting to a triton workbench, router table, Ryobi thicknesser, sanders and SCMS. I do not own any heavy machinery so I'm hoping that at least for now this will keep the air in my shed and house clean.
I have a couple of questions for those who have experiemented.
Firstly I assume the more suction the better. Therefore, given that I will have to buy a vacuum cleaner to go with the device would I be better off buying the cheapest most powerful cyclonic vacuum I can find, some of which claim to suck at 20 -25 kpa or would a shop vac which might only be about 15 kpa.
Secondly having read sturdee's instructions I notice that 20mm pvc pibe is used. It would be possible to use a larger diameter pipe and I wondered whether a larger diameter (with a powerful vacuum) would improve performanc, particularly the saw and it might stretch to the thicknesser??
Thanks in advance
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26th June 2009, 05:07 PM #2Deceased
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I use the cheapest vacuum you can buy for mine, mainly ordinary household discards picked up from the hard rubbish collections and they work fine, sure a better one may be better but the cost of a cyclonic vacuum is wasted on these systems.
Yes, you can use a larger pvc pipe, mine was originally based around the needs of using a Triton's dust bucket, but even a larger pipe will not work with a thicknessser.
The mini cyclone is designed for sucking dust not wood shavings and chips coming of a thicknesser. For a thicknesser you will need a DC or full size cyclone.
Peter.
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27th June 2009, 09:52 PM #3
Actualy I've hooked my vac, a reco'd ducted vacuum unit, up to my 12.5in Delta portable thicknesser and it collects more than %95 of the waste. Used 50mm pipe which the vac us designed to use, increasing to 4in right at the machine.
As for the mini cyc handling the thicknesser output perhaps the mini cyc could handle all the volume the vac could drawer and as the two are matched should work OK?
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30th June 2009, 07:43 PM #4Member
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Thanks very much for the replies. I've found an old vaccuum that works albeit only just and give it a test and see how it goes.
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2nd July 2009, 05:15 AM #5
I wouldn't bother with a funnel. My experience with the baffle board is great and is easily scalable from small paint drum to larger dusty pre separators. The shop vac works for me although if I did it again I would consider getting a wall mounted Hoover garage vac. Although the wall mounted vac is a bit expensive it is easier to use for double duty things like cleaning the car etc.
I picked up bits and pieces of 3 old vacs at the last hard rubbish collection and now have enough hoses to mix and match with different machines. There seem to be 3 or 4 different sizes of vacuum cleaner hose.
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13th July 2009, 11:11 AM #6Member
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thanks
Thanks again for the advice and info. I ended up forking out for a new shop vac from bunnings for $90 and made a baffle for a paint tin in the thein style as suggested. I've used it to vaccuum up dust and also connected it to the scms and belt sander. It works a treat with next to nothing making it into the vacuum bag. Cheers.
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13th July 2009, 11:12 AM #7Member
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just as a point of interest has anybody tried one of these contraptions with very fine dust such as plasterboard flushing dust?
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