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Thread: Dust extractor setup
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21st April 2006, 10:21 PM #1
Dust extractor setup
Masters and apprentices,
I am relative novice to wood working, and thus only have a few power tools and a Triton workbench (which I am very happy with). I have a small 1Hp dust extractor which I picked up cheap, but am not sure the best way/most efficient way to setup the hosing. The inlet is 4inch, but most of my tools, and the dust cover on the Triton, are all 2 inch in size. Do I get a 4->2inch reducer on the extractor and run 2inch hosing to individual tool, or do the reducing at the tools end? Does it really matter? Is there a better way? I don't want to setup multiple hoses as I really don't have the space/inclination.
Stories/advice/warnings are all grateful.
Cheers,
Graha."Make something idiot-proof and someone will build a better idiot"
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21st April 2006, 10:32 PM #2
G'day Graha,
Run the reducers at the tool end, run it the other way around and you will dramaticaly restrict the effectivness of your Dusty.
Your Dusty is on wheels which means mobility, so just run one hose off it and connect to the required tool/machinery as needed.
As you upgrade and your machinery empire expands you may eventually want to do as most of us do and run multiple runs to individual machines.
My set up is below:
http://www.woodworkforums.ubeaut.com...ad.php?t=21968
See pics 3, 6 and 7
Welcome my son, welcome to the machine.
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21st April 2006, 11:02 PM #3
Welcome Graha.
Do you only want to connect the Triton, or more tools? How big is your workshop and how much do you want to spend? Try a search on this forum, there is plenty of information on DC, and Triton set-ups.
The 1 hp unit has a limited capacity, but you can expand it - check out my web site and take a read of this Forum's Best of the Best and Bill Pentz's web site on DC systems in general.
CheersNeil____________________________________________Every day presents an opportunity to learn something new
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21st April 2006, 11:10 PM #4
Sensei - I am actually sharing my hobby with my boxes and other junk in a single garage, hense the space restriction. I am wanting to connect the WC when I am ripping, then move the hose to planes/sanders etc when finishing up the pieces - I will be moving the hose as needed. As for the site recommendations, I will have a look tonight. What do you mean by "expand"? Buy a bigger unit, or get better performance from the current unit?
Waldo - thanks for the feedback - I am now envious of workers with dedicated space"Make something idiot-proof and someone will build a better idiot"
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21st April 2006, 11:26 PM #5
G'day Graha,
The dust expraction for a Triton has two forms. One above the blade through the blade guard and the other below the table via the Dust bag. A 1HP extractor doesn't do the job above the table all that well. That unit moves larger volumes of air at a slower speed. You're much better off with a small shop vac connected to a Triton Dust bucket (ideally modified to become a mini cyclone). It catches very small dust particles from the blade and basically needs fast air flow through a narrow pipe, just as is supplied by Triton. Some have modified the blade guard to accomodate the larger 4" pipes but I don't think it's a necessary modification or the best setup.
The 1HP units are better suited below a saw table or attached to a small jointer. Even then, you'll find a 2HP much better.
If you have a look at the articles on Triton dust extraction in our newsletters at www.tritonwoodworkers.org.au , you'll find a bit of info and a full conversion article for the dust bucket. Check the newsletter index and also the Triton mods section.
You could hook the 1HP unit to the uderside of the table but with a bag attached, i never found it worth the effort. It's mainly the aove table dust which causes the most health problems anyway.If at first you don't succeed, give something else a go. Life is far too short to waste time trying.
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21st April 2006, 11:36 PM #6Originally Posted by GrahaNeil____________________________________________Every day presents an opportunity to learn something new
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22nd April 2006, 12:22 AM #7
I have just found a good project for my father-in-law (who happens to be a boiler maker by trade) - those cyclones (looking through all links given) might be a good project for him to create for me (if I can convince him to do it for me). As for converting the Triton bucket with a cyclone adaptor (funnel and elbow joint) looks like it also may be a go - I might see if I can get a cheap vac from somewhere to use. Seems like the purchase of a cheap 1Hp dusty was not a good purchase after all.
Thanks for all the feedback guys - it has been an enlightening evening for myself on the joys and hazards of dust extraction.
Graha."Make something idiot-proof and someone will build a better idiot"
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22nd April 2006, 12:28 AM #8Originally Posted by GrahaIf at first you don't succeed, give something else a go. Life is far too short to waste time trying.
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