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13th September 2010, 09:40 PM #1
Dust masks etc
Hello all
I have been looking at a better solution for dust protection, have tried a couple of options but nothing seems to work like I would like it to.
Put in a call to Protector Alsafe today. They recommend the attached pic.
Has anyone used one of these. Good or bad comments.
The blurb is here
Have to ask if the shield is impact resistant.
Not too exxy considering what I am trying to protect. I have just about got my dust extraction set up for the lathe and will be looking at an air exchanger/filterer (is that even a word) to try and keep the atmosphere cleaner in the shed. Always try to work with a window and roller door up, or window and door. Doing what I can so to speak.
Thanks
ozIf you find you have dug yourself a hole, the first thing to do is stop digging.
I just finished child-proofing our house - but they still get inside.
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15th September 2010, 09:18 PM #2Intermediate Member
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Not too exxy considering what I am trying to protect
cheers
Don
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15th September 2010, 10:14 PM #3
Don
Under $300
OzIf you find you have dug yourself a hole, the first thing to do is stop digging.
I just finished child-proofing our house - but they still get inside.
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27th September 2010, 08:50 AM #4
I posted a thread a while ago about the 3M 7500 series. You can order from amazon with expedited postage for much cheaper than buying in oz
A fantastic mask very light weight and does not fog up glasses. It's not a full face mask but I would suggest you might not need it
https://www.woodworkforums.com/f11/3m...mmended-108472
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4th October 2010, 11:09 PM #5
I just started an order with amazon for these same items via TCP GLOBAL merchant and it's as affordable - $68aud
Here are some of the order details ...
Items: $27.59
Shipping & Handling: $37.85
Total Before Tax: $65.44
3M 7503 Half Facepiece Respirator Facepiece Only - Large Size, Requires Filters or Cartridges
Sold by:TCP Global Corp
$20.12
Qty:1
3M Particulate Filter 2097/07184/P100
Sold by:TCP Global Corp
$7.47
Qty:1
Shipping to:
Jason Pell
*deleted address*
VICTORIA
Australia
Shipping Speed:
Expedited Shipping (2-5 business days)
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5th October 2010, 10:41 AM #6
Thanks for the replies.
I have used my green dual filter (can't remeber the name) mask a bit lately, and find it uncomfortable to wear for extended periods, and it doesn't fit my delicate and fine featured face very well, so a full face version would be as bad if not worse froma comfort POV..
I've decided to put a few extra sheckles away and get an Airshield, for turning, sanding etc. Might look at something like the 3M 7500 for dangerous fumes work.
ozIf you find you have dug yourself a hole, the first thing to do is stop digging.
I just finished child-proofing our house - but they still get inside.
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5th October 2010, 03:09 PM #7
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5th October 2010, 05:52 PM #8
You can actually several shops stock the mask and there are equivalent AUSTRALIAN standards filters that ft it. So it's true you cant get the exact filters but you can buy equivalents but it's cheaper to get the US ones and in this case the US standards are basically the same
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6th October 2010, 08:22 AM #9
The 3M guys at the Western Safety Conference gave me the mask at the end of the show as a favour. They said the filters were overkill for what I was spraying (P100) but you don't get a whiff of anything inside the mask so I have stuck with that standard. I think P95 was the best I could get here. I use the pink ones anyway. Can check if you want - just not home right now.
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6th October 2010, 08:46 AM #10
I take your point on the quality of the filters not 100% confident in my understanding there. However there are three different kind of filters available for this mask in oz - the 2000, 5000 and 6000 series
http://www2.protectoralsafe.com.au/i...3314&P=2023711
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10th October 2010, 09:54 AM #11
Hi,
A couple of forumites have been trying to get the same price from amazon as me - I think the secret is to make 100% sure you are getting both mask AND filters from the same merchant - in this case TCP GLOBAL.
The easiest way to do this is to shop in their amazon store front
http://www.amazon.com/gp/browse.html...A23ADOZFIJNPFB
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13th October 2010, 11:17 PM #12Senior Member
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The JSP Powercap with a weight of only 440 gms looks good .Full details on toolpost.co.uk
Last edited by Paddy; 14th October 2010 at 06:25 PM. Reason: add pic
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19th October 2010, 08:26 PM #13New Member
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I just picked up a Scott Profile 2. They're £15 half masks.
One of the main reasons for choosing that one is I also do a lot of at home chemistry, which involves horrendously evil gases, like enough chlorine to turn flasks green. Enough that I have to frequently worry about being locked up as a terrorist if someone sees it and panics. And certainly enough to do some serious damage if that was the (idiotic) intention; the intention is making glow in the dark paint for latest endeavor.
I can usually deal with that by scrubbing it correctly and washing the exhausts of the reactions, but there's always some left hanging around at the end or I'll need to open the glassware mid work, which means dealing with it directly. Wherein it becomes helpful to have a respirator that will take genuine hazardous cartridges, which the Scott's will of coarse. The guy who sold me it had to delivered with the cartridges by the next morning, so I could get on with sanding, for which it has been excellent - doing floors and bin bags full of dust per day. He also included some chemical hazard cartridges that will do basically every realistic hazard; organics / halogens / reactive acid gases / base reactives and solid particulate, all in one compact, cheap cartridge.
I chose a half mask so I could put a face shield over it. Exploding glassware means fireballs, chemical burns and glass cuts. Goggles are useless for that, there are tests showing manikins with incinerated faces. Full face respirators also don't cover your throat or sides of your face / ears. And they can melt onto people's faces.
I'm now using an edging sander on the floors, which is chewing through, my face is near it and the dust extraction isn't so good on it. The half mask works great, but it's tricky getting a good seal with the goggles - as my eyes will end up full of dust in seconds without them on.
That would be an example of a good use for a full face, so the goggles and mask are all as one.
The Profile 2 is really nice for £15. It's comfy, I can barely feel any breathing resistance and it's easy to forget I have it on.
My only complaint is the head straps. I'm sure they could have made those a bit nicer without adding too much to the price.
I've also have one of the 3M full faces. It's really pathetic, but I don't like the respirators that have huge pancakes or cans. Saying that, 3M's are biased towards more everyday industrial uses, like spraying two parts and dealing with solvents or glues. For wood / metal working, it may be the best bet to go straight to the 3M's.
I can vouch for them being superbly comfortable, very, very easy to put on, they stay secure and the harness is excellent. They're also not all that expensive. The half mask is £5 more than my Scott, and I sold mine, still new in the box, for £25. I sold it because I didn't need it at the time and had a gigantic bill mounting up from university fees.
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21st October 2010, 10:04 AM #14He who turns good wood into saw dust
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Ozhunter,
Do you have an agricultural dealer in town, one that sells agg chemicals, sprays etc for crops. They have respirator masks with various cannister filters for different sprays and dusts etc. I picked mine up from a Primac agent and no worries about getting replacement parts etc. I use it when spraying lacquer and hand sanding some finishes. Works fantastic - no smell and comfy. Not real expensive either at about $120.
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21st October 2010, 10:18 AM #15
Thanks Wallnut
I 'll have a look, there are threee or four dealers in town.
Interesting thread, thanks for the replies.
For turning and most sanding I still like the Airshield.
Cheers
ozIf you find you have dug yourself a hole, the first thing to do is stop digging.
I just finished child-proofing our house - but they still get inside.
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