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7th November 2013, 02:46 PM #1
Eat My Dust
Following on from suggestions from Bob and others I have decided to bite the bullet and convert everything to 150mm ducting –the first being the DC itself.
Step 1: Convert the inlet port to 150mm which involved drilling out the spot welds holding the old one, enlarging the hole to 150mm and attaching a new home made version using screws from the inside of the plate.
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Step 2: I wanted to remove the flexi and go direct from the impeller to the bag catcher. The two ports were a different size and neither 150mm so I just cut down a circle of 150mm PVC and used that as a joiner.
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Step 3: In order to turn the impeller and motor on its ear I built a frame out of bits and pieces . . .
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. . . and bolted the thing up at the correct height so the impeller outlet aligned with the bag inlet. And it works.
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Next is to upgrade machine ports to 150mm.
Cheers
Dave . . .
I believe in Murphy's Law of Pre-requisites - Whatever I want to do, I have to do something else first.
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7th November 2013, 03:26 PM #2.
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Good job with the stand.
Using the standard 5" connector between the impeller and the bag housing limits the impeller flow to ~680 CFM with clean bags.
This may lead to a potential problem when using 6" ducting where the air speed will be 680 CFM divided by the sectional area of the duct in ft2)
I work this out to ~3500 FPM, which is less than the 4000 FPM recommended by BP to retain all sawdust in suspension within the airflow.
With my full generic 2HP mod the flow rate is 840 CFM so the air speed is 4300 FPM for clean needle felt bags which is also marginal because it will drop below this when the bag clogs up.
A pleated filter will have an air speed of 4700 FPM which will also stay cleaner for longer.
However, I would not now stop from proceeding with 6" ducting but make sure you have extra inspection ports so that you can keep an eye on any build up of dust in the ducting especially along horizontal runs of ducting.
The 4000 FPM won't apply to fine dust from sanders but large volumes of bigger chips such as a thicknesser.
If the chip do build up then shove an "air lance", (PVC pipe with holes in the end connected to a compressor) into the inspection ports to fluff the dust up while the DC is running.
In some industrial setups these are built into the system but I would not do that is it restricts the flow while it is in there.
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12th November 2013, 05:13 PM #3... and this too shall pass away ...
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Looking good!
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24th November 2013, 08:12 PM #4
Nice work. I look forward to seeing the rest of your upgrades!
TravSome days we are the flies; some days we are the windscreen
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26th November 2013, 03:26 PM #5
Probably a stupid question, but how do you cut the sheet metal for the dust extractor (ie to make the input hole 150mm)? I don't work in metal, just wood. Would a jigsaw with a fine metal blade work ok.?
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Should work fine. I used a jig saw with metal cutting blade to open up my table saw to 6"
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27th November 2013, 09:28 AM #7... and this too shall pass away ...
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I think Safari gives good advice which mirrors my experience. I performed surgery on sheet steel up to about 1.5 mm thick with a metal cutting blade in the jigsaw when opening up ports to 6", such as on the linisher. Worked fine.
Cheerio!
John
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