Thanks: 0
Likes: 0
Needs Pictures: 0
Picture(s) thanks: 0
Results 1 to 15 of 22
Thread: Home built cyclone cone
-
23rd August 2012, 04:42 PM #1Senior Member
- Join Date
- Dec 2011
- Location
- Brisbane
- Posts
- 454
Home built cyclone cone
Trying to work out how to build a cyclone cone larger than I can seem to buy. So the time has come when I have to consider making one myself out of a piece of flat plastic. I have never used a heat gun before (not that I can remember) so I am looking for tips on how to curve the plastic.
Some of the stuff is fairly obvious, things like getting the design right on cardboard/ paper first then transfer the design to plastic, cut the pattern out with a jigsaw etc. The help I need is more around the actual curving of the plastic.
Now I have vague memories of school days in shop when making something round out of metal, and using a cone like anvil. I figure this is probably the easiest way to curve the plastic, apply heat and slowly bend around the curved object. Common sense would lead me to keep the round pipe or whatever I use parallel to the sheet I am trying to bend… but I’m just guessing.
What size plastic would you use? 3mm? ,4mm?
-
23rd August 2012 04:42 PM # ADSGoogle Adsense Advertisement
- Join Date
- Always
- Location
- Advertising world
- Posts
- Many
-
23rd August 2012, 05:36 PM #2
cyclone
3mm is enough,(easier to shape)perhaps you could make a cardboard cone an use it as a template.then use a heat gun to bend the lexan round the cardboard cone?
Scotty Heilander
-
23rd August 2012, 06:25 PM #3Senior Member
- Join Date
- Dec 2011
- Location
- Brisbane
- Posts
- 454
ok thanks I guess my biggest concern is getting the shape perfectly conical so the air flows properly around the thing. Would be nice to almost have something like a cone plug to put in the center and apply heat to. Could have just given myself an idea...
-
24th August 2012, 12:00 AM #4Intermediate Member
- Join Date
- Apr 2011
- Location
- Arizona, USA
- Posts
- 43
cyclone
When I built mine out of wood, I made a 12" circle and a 6" circle then supported the two together. I do not know how long your cone will be but it seems to me that you could use this to hold the plastic together until it is fasten it together.
-
24th August 2012, 11:59 AM #5Senior Member
- Join Date
- Dec 2011
- Location
- Brisbane
- Posts
- 454
From your description I am envisaging something like building a wine barrel, but that concept has just given me an idea that might just work. If I was to make a top and bottom circle out of thickish MDF and screw the edge of the plastic to both top and bottom circles with a screw in each, and heat the plastic as I rolled it, that should do a fairly decent job of keeping the correct shape.
-
28th August 2012, 11:29 PM #6
Cyclone Central 100mm Cyclone Build and Review - YouTube
Here is a kit instruction which should help.It looks to be about 2mm sheet?
MDF would probably be cheaperScotty Heilander
-
29th August 2012, 02:10 PM #7Senior Member
- Join Date
- Dec 2011
- Location
- Brisbane
- Posts
- 454
Have seen their kit, but I don't think it is big enough to cope with a 6" inlet and outlet. I envisage I will build something along those lines though.
Also they are based out of the UK so might be diffacult getting it here in one piece.
-
1st September 2012, 05:22 PM #8
Re: Home built cyclone cone
Just a matter of scale ?
Scotty Heilander
-
1st September 2012, 11:31 PM #9GOLD MEMBER
- Join Date
- Jun 2005
- Location
- Helensburgh
- Posts
- 7,696
Bill Pentz has a scaleable design on his site. You could build one out of cardboard for test purposes, I would. Why waste good material on an experiment.
CHRIS
-
1st September 2012, 11:43 PM #10
Is your cyclone just for bulk chip removal so you DC doesn't fill up so fast, or is it going to be used to remove finer particles?
I only ask as i have a 44 gallon drum simply with the an outlet at the top (top is removable) and an inlet at the side with hose on the inside of the drum to push into a cyclone. I use it between my jointer and thicknesser to cut down on the amount of bags i use. Only the fine stuff gets to the DC (unless the drum gets too full) Sorry no pics i can take some but it won't be for a week.
I can fill it in less then an hour of work.1915 17"x50" LeBlond heavy duty Lathe, 24" Queen city shaper, 1970's G Vernier FV.3.TO Universal Mill, 1958 Blohm HFS 6 surface grinder, 1942 Rivett 715 Lathe, 14"x40" Antrac Lathe, Startrite H225 Bandsaw, 1949 Hercus Camelback Drill press, 1947 Holbrook C10 Lathe.
-
2nd September 2012, 12:25 AM #11Senior Member
- Join Date
- May 2012
- Location
- Flagstaff Hill
- Posts
- 178
Hi HeadScratcher, I recently built a cyclone unit based on the dimensions as the dust deputy sold by Carbatec. The large diameter of the cone being 150mm/6", the bottom of the cone being 75mm/3" and the overall height being 355mm/14".
To make the shape of the cone I stapled a 150mm diameter disc to one end of a 19mm dowel and a 75mm diameter dowel to the other end.
Next I wrapped paper around the two disc to form the shape of a cone, taped the paper together; then I marked the paper where the disc were. I then cut the excess paper off each end of the cone, then I cut the paper along the length of the cone .
When you lay the paper flat you then have the pattern to cut the material to make the cone.
As you can see in the photo it maybe a bit rough but it works exceptionally well, and I don't have to clean the filter inside the vacuum cleaner.
Hope this helps you out.
Cheers Alby
-
2nd September 2012, 11:11 AM #12Senior Member
- Join Date
- Dec 2011
- Location
- Brisbane
- Posts
- 454
Thanks guys...
Chris certainly don't want to reinvent the wheel if BP has already done the research and made the pattern available for public use. I will have a look and see if I can find it.
Ueee, yes primary purpose it to catch the big stuff and let the filters take care of the smaller stuff.
Alby, would need to probably need to use something a bit stiffer than paper for a much bigger pattern but the idea can still be transposed.
-
2nd September 2012, 12:53 PM #13GOLD MEMBER
- Join Date
- Jun 2005
- Location
- Helensburgh
- Posts
- 7,696
Why make the filter cleaning any more of a problem than what it is, you are just making a rod for your own back so to speak. Get the thing as efficient as possible so the filters get loaded as infrequently as possible and you can exhaust near clean air.
The need for filtration is a cold climate thing where the users need to re-circulate the air as to lose it would intolerable, in the US a lot of them are working in basements as well. Here in Australia we sell filters for specific purposes only as everyone else just exhausts the scrubbed air to atmosphere. I could count on one hand the number of filters I have sold to hobby WW's, commercial users of course are different and I have one none WW customer who is buying multiple units and each one gets a filter set.
One thing I have found since I have been involved in CV is that keeping it simple is very apt and if the KISS principle is applied within the known guidelines then it will work. Putting filters in adds two issues, it slows down air flow and gives you an extra job, both things to be avoided in my view.CHRIS
-
2nd September 2012, 01:03 PM #14Senior Member
- Join Date
- May 2012
- Location
- Flagstaff Hill
- Posts
- 178
Hi Headscratcher, yes you could use a large sheet of thin cardboard but as it turned out for me using a large sheet of paper did what it was intended to do, and this time it worked out.
Cheers Alby
-
2nd September 2012, 01:13 PM #15GOLD MEMBER
- Join Date
- Jun 2005
- Location
- Helensburgh
- Posts
- 7,696
You could make the pattern from 3mm MDF, cheap as chips and for the purpose fairly durable.
CHRIS
Similar Threads
-
Pine Cone home cast
By PenTurner in forum WOODTURNING - PEN TURNINGReplies: 4Last Post: 17th October 2010, 12:58 PM -
mini-cyclone cone - Traffic cone?
By Earthwhile in forum DUST EXTRACTIONReplies: 14Last Post: 21st August 2010, 09:08 AM -
Emperor Home Cast Pine Cone
By PenTurner in forum WOODTURNING - PEN TURNINGReplies: 16Last Post: 1st February 2010, 09:04 PM -
Home Built
By nev25 in forum BOAT BUILDING / REPAIRINGReplies: 17Last Post: 4th February 2008, 10:27 PM -
Making cone for Cyclone
By inferno6688 in forum DUST EXTRACTIONReplies: 10Last Post: 11th January 2006, 11:28 PM