Thread: Oneida super dust deputy kits
24th May 2020, 12:04 PM #1
Oneida super dust deputy kits
Has anyone got one of the above, like those available from Timbecon, please.
I would like a good, bad, and vfm etc review, please.
Have been trying to improve my d/e setup without spending too much;
now thinking the gov support payment should go on something beneficial to my health.
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24th May 2020, 12:23 PM #2
Whilst I can't help you directly with any advice on that device (apart from mentioning that it's going to reduce your airflow), it would help to know what you have to start with.
How many machines and what sort of machines have you got that need extraction?
What kind (make, model etc) of extraction do you have now?
How is it all connected?
From there, we can start to give you some meaningful input on how to improve things.
I would also highly recommend doing some reading through this section of the forums, particularly the stickies at the top of the page - there's a lot of useful information here already that will get you a good idea of the general idea/approach to dust collection.
24th May 2020, 02:09 PM #3
Thanks for your reply.
I have the Sherwood 3HP FM400 1900cfm d/e.
Located in outside shed, 100mm pvc from inside garage workshop to inside d/e shed.
100mm flexible hose at both ends; from machine & to d/e.
It works well, but I am trying to get the best out of a less than best installation.
Also trying to reduce the amount going into the clear plastic bags because changing them is not a lot of fun.
24th May 2020, 02:59 PM #4.
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Unfortunately that DC the impeller is too small so using short lengths of 4" ducting is never going to draw more than 425 CFM through that size ducting and adding any cyclone is going to make it worse in terms of air flow and dust collection terms.
A cyclone means while you will have less to empty of the clear plastic sawdust bags but you will still have to empty the cyclone bin anyway so its swings and roundabouts on that score. A lot of people worry about too much about cleaning the filter bags but all you need to do is give them a good shake, wait for 5 minutes and then removed the sawdust bags. Don't worry about getting the filters anywhere near pristine again - they actually perform better when they are "conditioned", as long as they are not fully caked over with dust.
The worst thing about a cyclone on a small DC is that the reduced flows means less fine dust will be collected at the source leaving it behind in the shed. You will hardly ever se this dust as it is too one to see but it s the one that is most significant in terms of health
The way too get more flow is
Don't use a cyclone
Ditch the 4" connector on the front of the DC and replace it with a 6" port
Run 6" ductingto machinery
Open up ports on each machine to fully accomodate the 6" ducting
If you still decide to go with a cyclone and basically collect chips with your setup, the fine dust can be handled by using exhaust fans - the target is 20 room air changes per hour. Ordinary bathroom fans will work as long as enough of them are used.
24th May 2020, 03:51 PM #5
ALWAYS good info from you.
I accept the increased port and ducting advice, but that would require some serious work in my circumstances.
The Oneida units are expensive which is why I started this thread.
Seems like not worth it for me; which is what I set out to establish.
24th May 2020, 05:57 PM #6.
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24th May 2020, 06:44 PM #7GOLD MEMBER
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I have the 5” Super Dust Deputy on a 2HP blower. For 3HP you need the 6” SDD which Timbecon no longer appears to stock. In fact, the 5” model is out of stock too.
I’m extremely happy with the SDD. I just thicknessed a heap of recycled oregon from a mate’s decking. It filled the dust bin twice. It was much easier to empty the bin than stuff around with the plastic bags on the original DE. Perhaps your DE has a better arrangement for attaching the bags, but mine was a nightmare. Depending on how much sawdust you generate I would definitely consider a cyclone of some description. But you will definitely need to upsize the ducting to make up for the loss induced by the cyclone. In my case going from 4” ducting to 5” drastically increased airflow, even with the addition of the SDD. Going to 6” would be even better.
You asked for good & bad:
Plug and Play
expensive for a piece of blow moulded plastic
out of stock!
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