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1st June 2021, 12:53 AM #1SENIOR MEMBER
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Best options for Clearvue collection bin
Bit the bullet. CV1800 finally put on order, already have 6" ducting.
Trying to find the best solution for the collection bin. I note that there is a mixture of solutions on the forum here from making your own, to wheelie bins, to those blue snap lock drums or steel 220L drums.
I'm wondering if these Jantex 80L bins would collapse? https://www.nisbets.com.au/jantex-bin-80ltr/l647
I've picked out the Jantex bin in particular as it seems to be the heaviest (10.7kg) and therefore i assume the wall thickness would be greatest compared to some other bins available so hopefully a little more sturdy.
As for the lid I think i'll make my own and add a little viewing window, a decent seal and a few latches to keep it air tight. Reason for this over, for example, building my own is I like to build up a few bins full and take to my designated dumping point so i could have a few 80L tubs, fill as required and just do a single empty run.
All input welcome.
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1st June 2021, 01:17 AM #2Intermediate Member
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In the U.S., I've seen reports of the similar Rubbermaid "Brute" bin being collapsed by the CV1800 but I don't know about the Jantex. Looking at the Nisbets catalog, the two seem similar. The solution to them collapsing has been either double them up (one inside a second) or building an internal framework. Do you have fiber shipping drums available? (like these from U.S. site, sorry) I've found the fiber drums suitable for use with a CV1800.
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1st June 2021, 01:20 AM #3SENIOR MEMBER
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Fiber drums aren't common here in Aus, i found one website that has them but i haven't looked into contacting them for pricing.
The rubbermaid brute bin of similar size (75L) is listed as somewhere around 2.7kg so the jantex, with similar volume is almost 4x the weight. I'll have a read on the US clearvue forum. Cheers.
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1st June 2021, 02:45 AM #4GOLD MEMBER
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I know the open top steel drums are bigger and heavier but if you follow Bob's recommendations of only letting it get 1/2 to 2/3s full before changing you can collect approximately 100/130 litres of dust. The trash can you are looking at would only have 40 to 50 litres of dust in it. It doesn't take too long to generate that much dust when thicknessing wood for a project. With a lid on the drum you can lay it over and kick it around to get it where you want it. Can't do that with a trash can.
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1st June 2021, 09:21 AM #5.
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I did a back calculation to determine the wall thickness of the Jantex bin and get about 0.85mm which will be too thin and it will collapse.
Also I agree that 80L is too small.
However, bear in mind hat you will need enough height to get it off the ground to use a bigger drum.
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1st June 2021, 11:19 AM #6SENIOR MEMBER
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No problem, steel 220l drum it is then! Thanks.
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1st June 2021, 11:54 AM #7GOLD MEMBER
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Over many years I have been using a blue 205 plastic drum with no collapsing and I have not heard of it happening at all including one commercial site using a Max. What has become a problem with the 205 blue drums is when using a big straight blade thicknesser on big boards it takes about five minutes to fill one.
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2nd June 2021, 11:12 AM #8Member
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Best options for Clearvue collection bin
I made up a rectangular box as I was a bit short on height. Dimensions are approx 700 high, 650 deep and 500 wide with 200 litres capacity. It’s on three wheels (fixed axle from Bunnings at rear) - I wheel it out to a garden bed and tip it out when it’s full. I routed in a foam seal around the lid which seals under vacuum - I was going to install latches but they turned out to be unnecessary.
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2nd June 2021, 08:45 PM #9Senior Member
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The "local shed" used a 240 litre garbage bin for several years until it collapsed. a big split.
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3rd June 2021, 03:07 AM #11SENIOR MEMBER
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Thanks for all the input!
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5th June 2021, 08:15 PM #12Senior Member
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Using a Clearvue? I always advise CV owners to leave one port open at all times to scrub the air and a side affect of that is to reduce the negative pressure that would cause this sort of thing.
OK How many inches of water column do you suggest?
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5th June 2021, 10:05 PM #13GOLD MEMBER
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Trying to get mens shed members to always leave a gate open has not been that successful so we installed this at the end of the trunk line.
It looks like shed users might hit their heads on it but its 3.8m above the floor so it doesnt get in the way
IF all other gates are closed it automatically opens to provide some flow. Despite having this valve in use we have still managed to crack one wheelie bin but I suspect this might also have something to do with the "special treatment" the bins get while they are being emptied.
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6th June 2021, 11:45 AM #15Senior Member
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a quick question Bob..
If I put a translucent 240 litre wheelie bin under a ClearVuMax, using a double layer of 19mm MDF laminated as a plug fit in place of the plastic lid, would you expect it to collapse?
I am sort of expecting it might, so I am thinking up custom made metal reinforcing hoop inserts, to reinforce the walls against collapse.
thanks in advance
Brendan
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