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6th June 2021, 12:18 PM #16.
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If full suction is not applied (ie by leaving a gate open or uses a damper valve) I don't expect a well treated wheelie bin to collapse.
However that also depends on how the bins are treated as they may still develop cracks at weak points.
The mens shed had 3 wheelie bins which started out just fine.
However, these bins were emptied by the council using one of those clawed grabber things on teh side of rubbish trucks. The claw grab the bins hard and lifts them up high above the truck.They apply a lot of force on the bin walls.
The 3 dust collection bins also had vertical slots about 25mm wide and 350 mm long cut into the side near the top of the bin and covered with a perspex so that the level of sawdust could be observed. This created a weak point which was repeated flexed every time they were emptied and when the DC motor was switched on and off. I reckon all this contributed to them developing cracks. Sealing the cracks with silicone only lasted a few weeks.
Because of all this they now use steel drums and transfer the sawdust into a wheelie./
Reinforcement is probably a good idea BUT I would avoid even drilling holes in them if you can
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6th June 2021, 01:52 PM #17Senior Member
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Liquid column (manometer) from Wikipedia
Liquid-column gauges consist of a column of liquid in a tube whose ends are exposed to different pressures. The column will rise or fall until its weight (a force applied due to gravity) is in equilibrium with the pressure differential between the two ends of the tube (a force applied due to fluid pressure). A very simple version is a U-shaped tube half-full of liquid, one side of which is connected to the region of interest while the reference pressure (which might be the atmospheric pressure or a vacuum) is applied to
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6th June 2021, 02:23 PM #18Senior Member
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The "local shed" has a manometer indicating 9" of water column when all blast gates are closed, I suspect there could a few leaks.
I like the idea of an automatic gate that opens when the water column rises to ?????
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6th June 2021, 05:34 PM #19Woodworking mechanic
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Using a formula BobL supplied some time ago, that 9” equates to a theoretical max CFM of 1228 in a system using 6” pipe.
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6th June 2021, 05:54 PM #20GOLD MEMBER
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6th June 2021, 08:00 PM #21SENIOR MEMBER
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As BobL said, make sure you have enough height to accommodate your proposed bin. Rather than using a standard bin and constraining yourself to its height, why not make your own bin(s) to optimise the room available? I made a box and lid from 19mm ply, glued and screwed. The interior joins were sealed with silicone sealant. The lid is secured with cam locks and sealed with 12mm x 25mm rubber strip from Clark Rubber. A handle on the front and rear wheels make it easy to move away.
It won't collapse. Dust Collection Box.jpg
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7th June 2021, 09:31 AM #23SENIOR MEMBER
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Most of the time I up-end it onto a heap about 5 metres from the dedicated and sound insulated dust extractor shed and the cattle eat it. It would probably be good mulch but the box is too heavy to empty directly into a barrow. The weight is the only downside of the box but using lighter ply could be risky without internal bracing.
I never use MDF owing to its toxicity and am still considering the fate of the full load of camphorwood shavings currently in the box for the same reason. I suspect they're bound for either the Oberon tip or the floor of one of the sheds to deter rodents.
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