Thread: Best options for Clearvue collection bin

In the U.S., I've seen reports of the similar Rubbermaid "Brute" bin being collapsed by the CV1800 but I don't know about the Jantex. Looking at the Nisbets catalog, the two seem similar. The solution to them collapsing has been either double them up (one inside a second) or building an internal framework. Do you have fiber shipping drums available? (like these from U.S. site, sorry) I've found the fiber drums suitable for use with a CV1800.

Fiber drums aren't common here in Aus, i found one website that has them but i haven't looked into contacting them for pricing.

The rubbermaid brute bin of similar size (75L) is listed as somewhere around 2.7kg so the jantex, with similar volume is almost 4x the weight. I'll have a read on the US clearvue forum. Cheers.

I know the open top steel drums are bigger and heavier but if you follow Bob's recommendations of only letting it get 1/2 to 2/3s full before changing you can collect approximately 100/130 litres of dust. The trash can you are looking at would only have 40 to 50 litres of dust in it. It doesn't take too long to generate that much dust when thicknessing wood for a project. With a lid on the drum you can lay it over and kick it around to get it where you want it. Can't do that with a trash can.

Pete

I did a back calculation to determine the wall thickness of the Jantex bin and get about 0.85mm which will be too thin and it will collapse.
Also I agree that 80L is too small.
However, bear in mind hat you will need enough height to get it off the ground to use a bigger drum.

No problem, steel 220l drum it is then! Thanks.

Over many years I have been using a blue 205 plastic drum with no collapsing and I have not heard of it happening at all including one commercial site using a Max. What has become a problem with the 205 blue drums is when using a big straight blade thicknesser on big boards it takes about five minutes to fill one.

I made up a rectangular box as I was a bit short on height. Dimensions are approx 700 high, 650 deep and 500 wide with 200 litres capacity. It’s on three wheels (fixed axle from Bunnings at rear) - I wheel it out to a garden bed and tip it out when it’s full. I routed in a foam seal around the lid which seals under vacuum - I was going to install latches but they turned out to be unnecessary.









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The "local shed" used a 240 litre garbage bin for several years until it collapsed. a big split.

Originally Posted by mannum3

The "local shed" used a 240 litre garbage bin for several years until it collapsed. a big split.

Using a Clearvue? I always advise CV owners to leave one port open at all times to scrub the air and a side affect of that is to reduce the negative pressure that would cause this sort of thing.

Thanks for all the input!

Using a Clearvue? I always advise CV owners to leave one port open at all times to scrub the air and a side affect of that is to reduce the negative pressure that would cause this sort of thing.

OK How many inches of water column do you suggest?

Originally Posted by mannum3

Using a Clearvue? I always advise CV owners to leave one port open at all times to scrub the air and a side affect of that is to reduce the negative pressure that would cause this sort of thing.

OK How many inches of water column do you suggest?

I don't understand the question and I have never heard anyone complain about the practise.

Trying to get mens shed members to always leave a gate open has not been that successful so we installed this at the end of the trunk line.
It looks like shed users might hit their heads on it but its 3.8m above the floor so it doesnt get in the way

IF all other gates are closed it automatically opens to provide some flow. Despite having this valve in use we have still managed to crack one wheelie bin but I suspect this might also have something to do with the "special treatment" the bins get while they are being emptied.

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a quick question Bob..

If I put a translucent 240 litre wheelie bin under a ClearVuMax, using a double layer of 19mm MDF laminated as a plug fit in place of the plastic lid, would you expect it to collapse?

I am sort of expecting it might, so I am thinking up custom made metal reinforcing hoop inserts, to reinforce the walls against collapse.

thanks in advance

Brendan