Thread: Pleated filter cartridges ?

Originally Posted by apricotripper

Do you really need a pleated cartridge if your going to have your dust extractor outside ?

No you don't.

ta. but should I get one anyway say for inside,,,,what are they like ?...do they clog up on you, or bags a pain in the ???? ?

I would strongly recomend purchasing one for inside the workshop. We have one on each of our 1650cfm dustys and they do a very good job of trapping the very fine dust. They come fitted with a crank handle at the top. When turned, the handle rotates some metal or plastic agitators on the inside of the filter cartridge to help clear the fine build up of dust that occurs inside. That combined with a quick blast with the air compressor ensures clean and efficient filtration. We go through quite a few plastic bags but then again we are producing large volumes of waste. It still works out quite cheap. After using these filters for a year now, I would not go back to needle felt bags.

I find the plastic bags great, can be reused if you handle them with care. Probably get about 10 to 20 uses out of them before they need replacing possibly more, never really counted how many uses I get but I have only just bought my second batch of bags and the first set I bought at least 5yrs ago

I re-use the Jet ones for as long as I can, but also buy 80 X 120 orange garbage bags from Woolies and use them - the pull string top is good too

woodcutta

great. reassuring. thankyou kindly.

I only use them bags once as I've had one fail... not pretty!

Another thing to remember, they will gain you extra CFM as they are more free flowing than bags and stay that way for a lot longer.
You can buy the bags in bulk(by the roll of 100), contact a plastics packaging mob.

I bought my bags when I bought the machine six years ago. I'm still on the first one, although it's had a few holes patched with packing tape.

If you use a heavy plastic bag, and handle it reasonably carefully I can't see why it wouldn't last almost indefinitely.

To empty it, I put a wheelie bin liner over it, then upend the lot in an empty wheelie bin, before sliding the dustie bag out. A full dustie bag takes about 3/4 of a wheelie bin, so you have to do a bit of night dumping in your neighbour's bin that week.

Cheers,

P

ta. personal experience from friends is the best kind of advice IMO. Much better than asking the salesman I think.

I've looked at these pleated filter cartridges with some interest also, Jake. I have two 2hp dust collectors - both inside & still with the original felt upper bags. One day I've got to get a little more serious about dust collection/management, but there's always something urgent on the workshop budget list isn't there, and the current dust extractor setup is working reasonably well as it is. Like you I'm also considering one of the Room Air Filters (did you get one?). So much to buy - so little money!

I've used the plastic lower bags for a little while now - no probs so far - although I have obviously kept the original bags as well. As the others have said, it appears that you can reuse them as long as they're handled carefully. I have a bad habit of allowing the bags to become too full which makes them difficult to remove and handle - your fingers tend to almost go through the plastic when they're too heavy.

The plastic bags are somewhat better in this respect as they give you a constant visual prompt of exactly what level they're at, rather than having to remember to go and manually check. A little thing, but it helps - particularly if the machines are a little hard to get at (like mine). If they are emptied at around half full they are obviously much easier to handle and there's a better chance of reusing the plastic. I currently have a felt bag on one of my machines and a plastic bag on the other. As I sit here I can tell you exactly how full the plastic bag is from memory - the other one I have no idea.

Wayne

thanks Wayne.

I didn't think of knowing how full they are !...thats a big deal for me. At work their for ever overfilling because you can't quickly look how high they are, and being so absorbed with the job uno you overlook it...and such a pain cleaning up when they overflow. dust everywhere. thanks for bringing that up. Definetly leaning towards a pleated bag now.

How hard do you find strapping those plastic bags on ?......thats part of the frustration with emptying bags for me......juggling act to tighten the straps. uno.

I haven't got a filter yet. concerned with putting up a new shed at the moment. I've knocked down my old shed and putting up a bigger shed. Waiting on a builder to pull his finger out.

Trying to work how I'm going to layout the new shed. Get dust extraction going. What DE to buy etc. Maybe put outside (thinking now if I put outside I can't see how full the bag is) . Fiddling around with bits of cardboard with blue tack stuck on them, trying to work out where everything goes. Finding it quite tricky actually.

anyhow how you going ?

Originally Posted by apricotripper

How hard do you find strapping those plastic bags on ?......thats part of the frustration with emptying bags for me......juggling act to tighten the straps. uno.

I have the pleated filter and would never go back. Putting the plastic bags on is no trouble if you use a few strips of strategicly places masking tape round the back. I just wipe the dust off two spots and tape the back of the bag up with two pieces of tape. Before I did that it was a pain. Now I empty it a lot more often (ie when it should be) as i know it is going to be quick and easy to do.

apricotripper, try this little application for designing your workshop.

http://www.inthewoodshop.org/software/software.shtml

If you're willing to pay a little more, the JET dust collectors have a spring retaining band that is the easiest method I know to put the collection bag on with.

The band is a semi rigid structure with a cloth outer shell. You drape the edge of the bag over the band and push it up into the bottom of the DC, then pull the band down.