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Thread: Shop vac vs mini cyclone
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9th February 2008, 08:31 AM #1Novice
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Shop vac vs mini cyclone
A long winded story for a short question....
I recently suggested to my family that a shop vac might be a nice birthday present, something to connect to handheld tools. I am now the proud owner of some Bunnies vouchers with which to buy said shop vac.
I've been to the Big B and looked at Shop-Vac, Ozito, Karcher, and Ryobi models all around $90-$100 and all looking pretty similar. Any more expensive seem to just have bigger capacity.
So I start researching on the forums and come across all the mini-cyclone talk. I realise that among my other things, my sister is storing an old Volta vac in my shed. Mmmm. (mind you, I haven't confirmed yet that it works)
So here's the question: Aside from cost, and the pleasure of making it yourself, is a home made mini cyclone hooked to an old vac better in performance than a $100 shop vac?
Any opinions, educated or otherwise would be appreciated.
jonathan
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9th February 2008, 09:19 AM #2Awaiting Email Confirmation
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Planetjag in the simplest way I can put it. ||||| yes |||| a cyclone is better not only for removal of waste but also your health. There are heaps of other threads on this subject and other web sites.
Steve
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9th February 2008, 09:24 AM #3
For what it's worth, I set up a 60 litre drum with an old vacuum cleaner by inserting 2 tubes into the top of a 60 litre drum.
The inlet tube was fitted through the lid and ended about a quarter of the distance from the top of the drum. The 'sucker' tube was fitted to the opposite side and level with the top.
It worked well and cost me about $5.00 for the plumbing and the vacuum cleaner was out of service, but was ideal for the job.
A 20 litre drum would be even more efficient.....maybe? The advantage in using the 60 litre drum was that the lid could be removed for emptying, and then sealed tight using the lid clamp.
I will attempt to draw a plan if you would like. Let me know and I'll have a go.Of course I'm brave, I'm afraid of NO man, and only a few women.
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Sorry about that Jonathan had to run out and save the dog from getting run over by a car that was already parked (Irish Red Setter iq is negative i think) see wayne davy's web site it will answer some may all of your questions/concerns.
Steve
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9th February 2008, 09:51 AM #5
This is a work of art. I hope it comes out ok because it is in 'paint'.
Good luck.Of course I'm brave, I'm afraid of NO man, and only a few women.
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9th February 2008, 09:53 AM #6
to small to see toyboy
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9th February 2008, 09:56 AM #7
See how this goes.
I'm still trying to figure all this stuff out.Last edited by Toyboy; 9th February 2008 at 09:56 AM. Reason: The stupid thing didn't work.
Of course I'm brave, I'm afraid of NO man, and only a few women.
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9th February 2008, 10:11 AM #8
I took liberty and enlarged the picture but the writing is too fuzzy
WolffieEvery day is better than yesterday
Cheers
SAISAY
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9th February 2008, 10:12 AM #9
Toyboy, try cutting out the the rest of the page or while your in paint drag the bottom right corner up diagonally so that the diagram fills the whole page, that should then allow you to post a bigger picture.
Cheers
DJ
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9th February 2008, 10:15 AM #10
Here goes version 673.
Of course I'm brave, I'm afraid of NO man, and only a few women.
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9th February 2008, 10:18 AM #11
Thanks for the advice everyone.
SWMBO thinks I'm an idiot too.
If this doesn't work, it's SWMBO's fault.Of course I'm brave, I'm afraid of NO man, and only a few women.
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9th February 2008, 10:20 AM #12
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9th February 2008, 11:42 AM #13
With straight in and straight out connections you lose too much pressure, also using filters just clog up, this is the dissadvantage of the Triton dust bucket. If you are after a simple bucket type solution, try searching for Sturdee's DC bucket, it uses cyclonic theory that works a lot better.
Alternatively, do a propper search on cyclones and DC systems, they are worth the read.Neil____________________________________________Every day presents an opportunity to learn something new
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9th February 2008, 11:55 AM #14Deceased
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A mini cyclone and any old vac is better than a shop vac, but a mini cyclone with a shopvac motor is perfect.
The lonk to my mini cyclone made fro a Triton dust bucket is here and there is also a video available showing how to build it.
You don't need to use a Triton dust bucket as they can easily be made from a few old paint tins as others have posted.
Peter.
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9th February 2008, 01:26 PM #15Novice
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Thanks
Thanks everyone for all the feedback. I had been looking at Sturdee's plans and think I will have a go at making one. Although I still need to decide whether to still spring for the shop vac for the added level of performance. Decisions, decisions, decisions.
Whereabouts do people tend to get vacuum hoses for making up these rigs? Is it just a matter of scrounging hard waste collections, or can they be bought cheaply?
jonathan
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