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22nd June 2014, 11:40 AM #1SENIOR MEMBER
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Wanted: Supplier for Hose & Hose Adaptors for Workshop Vacuum Cleaners
Greetings,
I need to set up dust collection/extraction for some of my power tools (Triton Routers, Jig Saws, etc). I have tried using hose reducers to step down from the 100 mm hose on my 2 hp Dust Collector, to the small fittings on one of my power tools (a Hitachi Planer), but without any success. The Dust Extractor just "bogs down" and there's almost no suction at the small reducer. I had a feeling it wouldn't work very well, but I had the necessary 100 mm multiple step down converter on hand, so I thought I'd give it a try.
My next solution is to try to adapt my generic 2000 watt Wet/Dry Vacuum that I use in the workshop. Being a "cheapie" it only comes with basic domestic cleaning nozzles, a 2 meter flexible hose, and no adaptors to change the hose size to suit each power tool's hose fitting. I have successfully made one adaptor by turning a piece of HDPE in my woodlathe. I connected the vac to one of my Triton Routers and the cheapie vac was able to successfully clear all wood chips and MDF dust from the router. But, the standard 2 meter vac hose is far too short and too stiff, resulting in the router's movement being restricted by the hose - could be very dangerous in the right (or wrong) circumstances.
So, my questions ........
Can anyone suggest a supplier/s for such things as:
- Vacuum Cleaner hose adaptors to allow connection to the variety of different hose fittings installed on power tools ?
- Vacuum cleaner hose (eg around 35 or 40 mm) in bulk lengths (I'd like to get about 4 meters) ?
- Fittings to allow connection of bulk lengths of hose to the vacuum cleaner ?
Regards,
RoyManufacturer of the Finest Quality Off-Cuts.
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22nd June 2014, 12:13 PM #2
G'day Roy
These two threads may offer some clues. My system is different to what you are describing in that it is ducted (which is super convenient), and it is mostly for Festools. The FT are very very expensive for what they are, but they are custom molded for their tools, so they work very well. I will be selling some leftover or now redundant fittings in the Marketplace when I get roundtuit (just gotta take some pics really).
https://www.woodworkforums.com/f200/ducted-system-shop-vac-mk-ii-184635
https://www.woodworkforums.com/f58/festool-vac-ducted-system-184637
I didn't use HDPE, just hardwood, which made some of the fittings larger than HDPE would have, but hey, it did the job required. For the blast gates I used MDF.
HTH
Brett
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24th June 2014, 03:01 PM #3Senior Member
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masters are selling shopvac parts such as the hose $17.00 and the stepdown reducers for $7.00
i have converted alot of my tools over to dust extracted using various PVC fittings and heating them with a heatgun and forcing the pvc onto the powertool while its still soft.
there are a few smells, so wear a mask or do it outdoors, but it works very well. My makita beltsander has a rectangle output and now has a nice round pvc fitting that the vac hooks up to nicely.
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24th June 2014, 04:10 PM #4.
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The plumbing section of hardware stores stock thick rubber plumbing reducers that use stainless steel pipe clamps.
Like these
http://www.bunnings.com.au/deks-indu...oiner_p4730489
The beauty of these is that they cover a wide range of sizes and will easily mould themselves around oval or rounded power tool dust ports.
BTW
A substantial of the dust extraction by power tools that pull the air through them (e.g. sanders) is not made by the vacuum cleaner (VC) but by the power tool fan itself. All the VC or DC has to do is keep up with the air flow that the power tool itself generates and provided you use 50 mm hose a 2HP DC will actually pull more air away from these tools than most VCs. It's no good testing the flow with the power tool off it must be on.
The above does not apply to to tools like routers or saws that don't uses an internal fan and relies on the suction only generated by the dust extractor and drags extra air in around the tool during its operation
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25th June 2014, 12:33 PM #5SENIOR MEMBER
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Thanks for all the helpful information
Lots of helpful info. Thanks Guys . Sounds like I might only need the Vacuum Cleaner adaptors for the routers. My random orbital sanders, the jig saw all have an internal fans that help eject the dust, so I will try using the 2HP Dust Extractor for those tools.
Once again - thanks for the suggestions. I'm off to Bunny's and the local hardware to see what bits I can scrounge.
Thanks,
RoyManufacturer of the Finest Quality Off-Cuts.
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28th June 2014, 12:39 PM #6.
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I keep meaning to take a photo of when I am sanding a large piece of work with an cocky strap suspended DC hose but keep forgetting.
Here is a photo I took 18 months ago which shows a neat way of doing it if you have a high ceiling shed (not mine).
A longish steel hook is hung from a piece of poly pipe and then an ocky strap is attached to hook.
The hose can be tied or looped though the ocky strap and this holds the hose above the work.
The poly pipe is nice an slippery so the wire slides easily along the pipe. Alternately a wire line could be used.
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