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    Quote Originally Posted by elderly View Post
    I can't help but think that there is something wrong with this forum. Bob produces a wonderfull model pickup and is doing a WIP of a cab over tractor. At the time of this post he has had 9 replies on each and 155 views. Yonnee had done nothing and has had 31 replies and 534 views. Is it any wonder that more people don't do WIP?
    Cheers Elderly
    This above is a quote extracted from another thread,and why I think not alot of people are looking at Bobs posts or some other threads.
    Bob is a good guy.I think I get on well with him.
    One post with all the photos in it and very little content on how things were worked out,or tools used.Or maybe the problems that were encountered.
    People want to learn and see how to do it and what gear we need.
    You say to yourself Ahh! that is how to do that..
    There are plenty of How it was done -Hermit- Oven1944-,Brett in texas is a good one that comes to mind.Fly, J&J to name just a few excellent examples.They all put a lot of work into their"WIP, OR how I did it" postings
    We need to sell ourselves-Put it all out there and cop it.Like Yonnee has with his VW.It has people looking for all sorts of reasons.
    We could have a lot more members if we showed how to do things on the way .not just "Look what I made" type of thing.
    Also the "Scale Model Forum" should not be a sub forum.Some people cant even find it
    Members can but you tell a friend to have a look on the WWF in scale model toys,and see how they go without help,
    I am putting this out there to see what others think,seeing Elderly bought it up
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    I for one have learnt heaps from many of the great toymakers on the forum.
    I do very much appreciate the extra time & effort that blokes & ladies go to show everyone else "how they did" what is being done.
    I'm not a patient woodworker, especially with the Acquired Brain Injury and the Chronic Head Pain; I just enjoy making toys as & when I can PLUS I enjoy reading & encouraging others and sharing my found resources.
    {Forgive my personal situation statement as I also know many others have health issues].
    I used to often send friends & family the links to specific forum posts to read & view,
    BUT now days you must be a member to view the photos on the posts.
    I'd like to see the toymaking & scale models back as ONE section but with the name change that identifies both woodwork skills.
    And while on that there could be some sort of "star system" regulated by the Yonnee's of the world to IDENTIFY THE POSTS THAT HAVE A STRONG "HOW TO DO" theme,
    with the Best of the Best of these being recognised in the forum library as is current.
    I don't know if this is a ramble or something constructive, but my 2 bobs worth.
    Personally I'd like to say a huge THANK YOU to all the blokes & ladies on the forum for their support & encouragement; you have become friends across the miles & cyber space.
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    I agree Aussie, Scale Models need their own individual forum. Scale models are just that, scale models. I can't see the kids playing with any of mine.

    As for posting WIP's, I admire the few individuals who do post them. I did start one but completely failed because I felt as though I had to produce hence the enjoyment of making the model fell off.
    -Scott

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    Crowie.I could not have said it better than you did.Spot on
    SJT I know how much it hurts doing a WIP and dont blame anyone for not doing one.
    I was really saying if someone wonders why not many people are looking at a particular thread more than once is because there is nothing more to see.
    If there is a work in progress going on people cant wait to see the next posting.A bit like the Carp shows on TV every night
    Back To Car Building & All The Sawdust.

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    I like Steves WIP's and Bretts and Ovensxxxx as well. Mine was more of a "here is where I got to".
    I didn't really put down my thoughts and issues (Although Steve did get some emails)
    of my issues about the plans. Things like drill 3/16 hole down 1/4 inch wood (thats 1/32 timber left on each side). And the front saying use 5/8 timber then telling you on page 5 to get some 7/8 or glue 2 pieces, This annoyed me because I started with 7/8 and planed it down to 5/8...

    I'll do a better WIP next time.

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    Quote Originally Posted by _fly_ View Post
    I like Steves WIP's and Bretts and Ovensxxxx as well. Mine was more of a "here is where I got to".
    I didn't really put down my thoughts and issues (Although Steve did get some emails)
    of my issues about the plans. Things like drill 3/16 hole down 1/4 inch wood (thats 1/32 timber left on each side). And the front saying use 5/8 timber then telling you on page 5 to get some 7/8 or glue 2 pieces, This annoyed me because I started with 7/8 and planed it down to 5/8...

    I'll do a better WIP next time.
    Don't sell yourself too short Peter.....
    Both sorts of WIP are valuable as they both help others with know how and explaination.
    Cheers, crowie

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    Gotta throw in my 2c worth.

    WIPs is how I learn everything. I have no woodworking experience at all and find the various threads that clearly explain how to do things extremely helpful. I'm not the only one.
    Therefore, it's only fair that I pass on whatever I can as well. That's what makes this little world go 'round.

    We all love looking at finished pics, but even better if we can learn something along the way.

    I also agree wholeheartedly that this sub-forum has grown sufficiently and generates enough interest to have a place of it's own. (It is hard to find.)
    ... Steve

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    Hi Hermit.
    I am with you 100% I am not a woodworker either.I only took it up about 2008 because I wasnt fit enough to do my other hobbies.Never liked wood till then.I found the WWF and saw a competition to make a box.I didnt even own a saw.The wood was sent in the mail.
    I had to chase around to find someone that would let me use their bandsaw.I bought some cheap tools,read the forum about boxes.Wacked one together in the form of the front of a model A ford.Anyhow I won the Beginners section .I thought it was pretty good till a mod thought it was a grader or something.That let my tires down a bit.
    https://www.woodworkforums.com/f249/2...ntries-119716/ entry #3 is me.
    GMC tools were going cheap,so I bought up including some Triton bits.Router for $99 12" bandsaw for Ithink was $300 delivered from VEK tools Sydney GMC thicknesser for $199 etc.I was laughing >If it wasnt for all the cheap stuff at the time,I would not be doing what I do.Well not as easy anyway
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    Quote Originally Posted by AUSSIE View Post
    Hi Hermit.
    I am with you 100% I am not a woodworker either.I only took it up about 2008 because I wasnt fit enough to do my other hobbies.Never liked wood till then.I found the WWF and saw a competition to make a box.I didnt even own a saw.The wood was sent in the mail.
    I had to chase around to find someone that would let me use their bandsaw.I bought some cheap tools,read the forum about boxes.Wacked one together in the form of the front of a model A ford.Anyhow I won the Beginners section .I thought it was pretty good till a mod thought it was a grader or something.That let my tires down a bit.
    https://www.woodworkforums.com/f249/2...ntries-119716/ entry #3 is me.
    GMC tools were going cheap,so I bought up including some Triton bits.Router for $99 12" bandsaw for Ithink was $300 delivered from VEK tools Sydney GMC thicknesser for $199 etc.I was laughing >If it wasnt for all the cheap stuff at the time,I would not be doing what I do.Well not as easy anyway
    That's a ripper of a box. Doesn't look like a grader to me. Looks like an A Model.
    You mentioned that the trim was Jarrah. What was the main timber? Camphor Laurel?

    Your story sounds like mine - I only set out to make a balsa box for a digital clock I'd made back in February, found this site and was hooked. Started with nothing. Everything I have and know has been acquired in 5 months. (Not enough to fill a thimble, yet.)
    Wood carving of some sort had always been on my bucket-list, but this site got me motivated to actually do it.
    My shed is half-full of GMC and similar too. A good cheap way to get started, then gradually replace the cheap stuff with decent equipment. That's the plan, anyway.

    I owe you some thanks, too. It was partly your models that originally piqued my interest in scale-modelling. Yours', elderly's, j&j's, Bret's etc. Thanks. (I think.)
    ... Steve

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hermit View Post
    That's a ripper of a box. Doesn't look like a grader to me. Looks like an A Model.
    You mentioned that the trim was Jarrah. What was the main timber? Camphor Laurel?
    Yes wood was Camphor Laurel.We all bought the wood from the Comp organizer.A young Guy "Funkychicken" .That way it controlled what we used
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    Quote Originally Posted by AUSSIE
    Yes wood was Camphor Laurel.We all bought the wood from the Comp organizer.A young Guy "Funkychicken" .That way it controlled what we used
    Thanks AUSSIE. One of my favourite timbers. Often highly figured, easy to work and smells good to boot. As a bonus, we're getting rid of a weed.
    A lot of my current model is Camphor Laurel.
    ... Steve

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    Ok I wasn't going to chime in on this one but I decided I will. I understand where Ross is coming from on views of threads with and without WIP.

    I for one learn visually. I have to see how something is made in order to be successful at doing it. Having pictures is great but unless their are words to go along with how it is being done they sometimes can be lacking.

    I really enjoy documenting stuff so posting it on the forum is very easy for me. Everytime I work in the shop I think about how I am going to document and what photographs I am going to take before I ever start for the day. I also keep a daily work log in the shop tracking what time I started, when I finished, what I made, and the day's high temp. It's part of my OCD. I also hope that my WIP helps other see how things are made and hopefully inspire them to build something in some manner.

    For some people they just want to build toys and scale models and are not interested in the documentation and pictures. Let alone spending the time to post the WIP. And I can respect that. They just want to share their finished work and move on. For others the WIP is a journey and I for one check the forum everyday to see what progress has been made and what new models or toys have been started.

    I really enjoy following along on WIP and that is part of the fun of this forum. Asking questions and how things are made and having members explain is worth its weight in gold. Its great to share the same passions with people from all over the globe.

    As I have said before I found this forum while searching for scale wood hot rods and stumbled upon one of Scotty's hot rod builds. I spent several days going through every post in the toy section and scale modeling. I lurked for a year before I got up the nerve to make my first post. I have to say that is one fo the best decisions I have ever made. The folks on are here are great people and very helpful and encouraging. I have learned alot and made some good friends along the way.

    By the way I agree with the scale models being their own forum. We just need to post more and start more projects!


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    I find value in both the detailed WIP's and the "Look what I've done" threads.
    Obviously the first shows me the how's but the second can show me what is possible.

    I'd made a few wooden toys in years past but this forum introduced me to the detailed scale model concept. I have a folder on my hard drive of pics from this forum as an inspiration.

    I'm still a ways off having a go myself but the more I see here the more determined I am to get something happening myself. This is one area where a small workspace can be enough.

    So to all the names mentioned here, please continue what you are doing. No matter if its a detailed WIP or just pics of the finished item. Both have their place.

    Oh, and I agree. It deserves it's own place on the forum. These ain't toys.

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    Maybe I should reply to various comments about WIP.
    If I could express in writing what I can do with a price of wood, it is easy for some members that have a way with words, but my expression is what I can do with my hands.
    I hope to make a scale model of the 1912 Rolls , when holidays are over.
    First item are the wheels ,I have doodled with pad and pencil working out how to make the spokes with a rectangle end then turned to 5 mm diam , all 25 mm long, about 50 required. As there are no plans,I scale draw elevations and details taken from photos. My little bit. John.

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    John,
    I think thats what people want to know in a WIP,
    How your planning, what your trying what worked and what didn't and how you get there in the end.
    They don't want to just see the end complete wheel, (which is what I did and its wrong for a WIP).
    Peter

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