Hi, Just new to all of this forum stuff. To me the idea of a swap is to learn from others and try to improve your own work. The other side of the coin is to show off your work to others and receive constructive criticism about your work. Why is it all about $$$$$$$ How do you put a price on the value of information? Are some members so good at making pens that they don't need to improve? Also a new pen maker (ie Me ) would value a quality pen made by an expert. To me it is all about the swap of information not about getting back more $$$ than what you spend, because in that situation there is always a winner and loser. Just swap for the hell of it and who knows you may make a friend with similar interests Thanks for listening