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    4-7pm weekdays would be good and some time on the weekend would be even better for me but I'm really thinking about guys who are working but would like to come down.

    There are lots of older guys out there who have a lot of skills to share and belong to woodworking groups and there are many guys who would love to learn from them but can't make it during the set times. The Western Australian Woodturning Association is a case in point. Nowhere local to me seems to meet outside of work hours.
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    Quote Originally Posted by bookend View Post
    4-7pm weekdays would be good and some time on the weekend would be even better for me but I'm really thinking about guys who are working but would like to come down.

    There are lots of older guys out there who have a lot of skills to share and belong to woodworking groups and there are many guys who would love to learn from them but can't make it during the set times. The Western Australian Woodturning Association is a case in point. Nowhere local to me seems to meet outside of work hours.
    We understand after hours access is of interest to a number of folks but it's currently not possible for us because we are operating out of Como Secondary College and our use of their facilities requires Como staff to be present on site at all times we are there.

    When we move to the Manning senior citizens centre site in November it will be a requirement that for us to open the shed be supervised by someone with appropriate skills (workshop, med certificate, OHS aware, etc). We don't have the funding to employ paid supervisors and we will have to roster trained volunteer supervisors onto times that suit the majority members. Since every current member is a retiree I doubt that after hours times will be available. I guess it all sounds a bit " chicken and egg" , so I would be interested in hearing from anyone else that would find an after hours time useful to them and if enough people materialise I can always take it to the Committee. The other thing I can propose is that we trial an after hours opening time and if we get swamped with members then we may be able to find persons suitable to be supervisors from the extra members.

    We can always use more talent but we already have many ex-tradies an talented members, some with 40+ years of experience in trades.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BobL View Post
    We can always use more talent but we already have many ex-tradies an talented members, some with 40+ years of experience in trades.
    Fair enough about the supervision restrictions. I didn't understand the "but" in the above comment though.
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    Quote Originally Posted by bookend View Post
    Fair enough about the supervision restrictions. I didn't understand the "but" in the above comment though.

    Sorry that didn't come out the way I intended.

    What I meant to say was we have plenty of skilled people amongst the current membership, but not all skilled people want to be supervisors. Some are skilled in only a couple of areas of the workshop and/or may not want the responsibility to show others or come on a regular basis to be a supervisor. So talent is not a problem but folks prepared to be regular supervisors might be.

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    That's all fine Bob.

    I didn't mean sharing advice in a supervisor role though. I just meant a few lads having a chat and making suggestions if asked. Lots of people, including me, get a kick out of offering advice when it is seen as useful.

    Nothing formal or requiring commitment.
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    Quote Originally Posted by bookend View Post
    That's all fine Bob.
    I didn't mean sharing advice in a supervisor role though. I just meant a few lads having a chat and making suggestions if asked. Lots of people, including me, get a kick out of offering advice when it is seen as useful.
    Nothing formal or requiring commitment.
    No worries.

    Suggestions or advice from some of the more experienced members is extremely valuable and we encourage all members to bring up problems or ask for ideas about how to do things and that seems to work really well. Currently 90% of what we are doing is refurbishing old gear to get it ready for the new shed so there are not that many member generated projects but that is slowly changing.

    The first time I went along I saw a bunch of old stuff that needed a lot of work and the members didn't seem to know much and I almost did not go back. However, In terms of knowledge I turned out to be very wrong and have learned quite a bit from the ex-manual arts teachers and tradies. Just watching these guys working is useful as you see how efficient they are, especially compared to my "blue fly" method of working.

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    Today we had the famous TemplateTom come along and show the guys a few pointers about safe use of routers and templates. The guys were very impressed with Tom's Knowledge and easy going style and he might have even convinced a couple of our metal workers to pick up a router!

    I can thoroughly recommend Tom for demos to any Mens shed as he is sure to get your guys talking about this sort of stuff.

    So thanks again Tom.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BobL View Post
    Today we had the famous TemplateTom come along and show the guys a few pointers about safe use of routers and templates. The guys were very impressed with Tom's Knowledge and easy going style and he might have even convinced a couple of our metal workers to pick up a router!

    I can thoroughly recommend Tom for demos to any Mens shed as he is sure to get your guys talking about this sort of stuff.

    So thanks again Tom.
    Thank you BobL for those kind remarks As you would have seen from the great variety of samples I had on display there is a need to learn how the template guides added to the router will increase the potential of the router in any workshop. It wa a great pleasure attending and hopefully I will return when you get into the new shed.
    At the beginning of the year I conducted a couple of seminars introducing the template guides and it is my intension of introducind some more later in the year
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    Note; The Name Template Tom was given to me when I was teaching people who are Blind how to use the router I supplied all the Templates for them
    Learn new Routing skills with the use of the template guides

    Log on to You Tube for a collection of videos 'Routing with Tom O'Donnell'

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    Default Progress with the South Perth Mens Shed

    Just a pic to show how the new shed is progressing.

    Pad is down and the steel work is just about done.
    It's about 12 x 19 m all up although that includes a 4 x 6.5 m storeroom, a 4 x 3m office and a 9 x 4 m of kitchen, tearoom and ablution facilities, and a 4 x 8 m garage for the senior citizens bus.
    The main workshop space is ~15m x 8m but we can also move the bus and use the garage as temporary work space while we are there.

    Estimated completion date is early December.
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    Should make the tea room on a mezanine through the middle so the tea drnkers can sit and heckle the workers below.

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    Hi BobL,
    Sure looks great, but I am thinking that maybe there is room for an Extension, at a later date.
    Every Shed I have been to, have all run out of room, so it seems no matter how big it is, it is still not big enough.
    For our Machine Shop, I asked if they wood Blow all the Shavings into the Walls, no they put this other crap in & when the Thicknesser is going, you can't hear yourself talk.
    An old mate of mine did that to his Shed, & believe me you could walk up to his Shed & you could not hear a thing, so those Shaving & Sawdust, are the way to go.
    If you are afraid of Fire, it will still go up no matter what.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Burnsy View Post
    Should make the tea room on a mezanine through the middle so the tea drnkers can sit and heckle the workers below.
    We are looking at a mezzanine floor but unlike some sheds that can fund a lift we'll have to use stairs and several of our members can barely walk so that space can't be a tea room.

    Quote Originally Posted by issatree View Post
    Sure looks great, but I am thinking that maybe there is room for an Extension, at a later date.
    Yep plenty of room there.

    For our Machine Shop, I asked if they wood Blow all the Shavings into the Walls, no they put this other crap in & when the Thicknesser is going, you can't hear yourself talk.
    An old mate of mine did that to his Shed, & believe me you could walk up to his Shed & you could not hear a thing, so those Shaving & Sawdust, are the way to go.
    If you are afraid of Fire, it will still go up no matter what.
    The building is owned by the Council so there's no way they would let us do that. The main workshop area comes unlined. These walls are part brick and part insulated Colourbond. We plan to line the internal walls with plywood but up to 2.4m high. .

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    Default South Perth Mens shed update

    The two walls that are in brick are complete and the roof is on
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    One of the two Colorbond walls are done.
    That's a store room entrance on the left and the main shed on the right .
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    Just an update on the mens shed.

    It was supposed to be completed last friday but there has been a minor hiccup with the sewage connection so it will be officially handed over next Tuesday. Not too bad I supposed given the complexity of the sewage connection which I won't go into.

    Then we will be getting the workshop floor sealed just before Xmas so I guess it will be mid January before we kick off with the installation of the gear.

    I'll post some pics of the completed shed next week.

    The grand opening is planner for sometime in March. In that week we will also be hosting an open day. I'll post details here as soon as I get them

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    The key handover was yesterday so there was a small ceremony.

    Still no sewage connection but that should be completed by friday.
    Then we have to wait for the floor sealing to be done - so that means we won't get in there till after Xmas.

    There is still some rubbish to clean up and external fencing to be removed so I'll wait to take photos of the shed until its all cleaned up

    Meanwhile couple of snaps of the handover.

    Some opening remarks by the Manning senior citizens president, Magistrate Rob Burton - our shed is part of the Manning senior citizens centre which is next door.
    Here we are in one corner of the workshop floor.
    The windows show through to the shed office and kitchen areas
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    Mike King the builder hands the keys over to Rob Uphill, chairman of the Mens Shed Group.
    The person that came up with the original idea for the shed is the woman in red (Hillary) - originally it was going to be bus garage for the senior citizens centre bus but Hillary suggested it be combined with a mens shed.
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