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  1. #151
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    Quote Originally Posted by doug3030 View Post
    I actually declared the bench "finished" back in October 2020 or thereabouts. I just dropped in to post a picture of how it is holding up after six months when I just gave it a quick cleanup consisting of a wipe down and a light sand with 180 grit, checking all the metal fasteners for correct tension and gave it another coat of finish. I then realized that I had not posted any pics of the complete bench here.

    I posted lots of pictures of the finished bench on various facebook pages and other social media and it was featured on the Friday Lunch Prattle. Friday lunch prattle

    I seem to recall that someone was giving me the $h!ts on here at the time (I sincerely hope he has gotten on top of his issues and is doing better now) so I wasn't posting much on the forum at that time. Never mind. I might pull out a few of the pics of the newly completed bench and post them in this thread for posterity one day soon if there's any interest. It's really just a bunch of sexy dovetails and beautiful timber.

    Meanwhile, hers's a quick pic of how she is standing up to six months of reasonably heavy use, after the overhaul described above:

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    Barely a scratch or dent to be seen - unless you know where to look.

    I probably would have made a few more of my planned bench accessories by now but a bunch of blokes decided to start a plane-making challenge and I weakened and let them divert my from my chosen course.

    I hope to get the Moxon Vise done soon (soon is a very relative term in my shed) so that I can use it for dovetailing the tool chest which will roll in under the tailvise just nicely when not in use.

    Things are starting to come together.
    It seems to be ageing gracefully,Doug you should be proud.

    Cheers Matt.
    It was Bobs idea by the way, not mine[emoji6].

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    Quote Originally Posted by crowie View Post
    You needed to add a few random tools or a little sawdust to the photo
    Thanks Peter. There was no sawdust or tools because I had just wiped/buffed off the excess finish when the photo was taken and the surface was still a bit tacky. Thanks for the other kind comments.

    Quote Originally Posted by Bushmiller View Post
    I like the adoption of both round and rectangular dog holes: Very versatile.
    Thanks Paul. I have always preferred rectangular bench dogs in the doghole row and tailvise. The round holdfast holes were not in the plan I was following but I wanted them as I ma a big fan of holdfasts. The holdfast holes also fit Veritas Wonderdogs and other similar items which opens up a whole world of holding options for irregular shapes. Since I had a lot of 3/4" accessories that could also be used in conjunction with the tailvise I thought "Why not add round holes to the tailvise and doghole row?". In fact the round holes in the doghole row will come in handy for locating dowels for the Moxon vise, which will sit on top of the bench between the two vises and be secured with holdfasts near the middle of the bench.

    It also avoids the questions of "why didn't you go for round (or rectangular) benchdogs?"

    A few months ago someone was selling heaps of gear in the marketplace from a deceased estate. I missed out on a set of four "prarie dogs" by about a minute. Ttey would have been great for the doghole row. I will probably pick some up one day.
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    I love the bench Doug. Why did you not make the tail vise meet the end of the bench? I assume this could be another clamping area although the timber guide would limit the items that could fit. Do you clamp between the tail vise and the "apron" of the bench (not using dogs but the long end of the "L")?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mountain Ash View Post
    I love the bench Doug. Why did you not make the tail vise meet the end of the bench? I assume this could be another clamping area although the timber guide would limit the items that could fit. Do you clamp between the tail vise and the "apron" of the bench (not using dogs but the long end of the "L")?
    I made the tailvise dimensions pretty much as per the plans. My Grandfather's bench, which I learned on as a teen, was very much the same.

    Although I have never felt a need to clamp anything in the "L" of the tailvise in probably thousands of hours of working on that style of bench, I did actually think about modifying the plan to do that, but I could not really come up with any perceivable benefit to be gained from doing so.

    The whole point of having the "L" on the end of the tailvise, connected to the similarly sized jaw at the front, is to provide stability to keep the arm of the tailvise containing the dogholes running coplanar with the front of the bench instead of pulling away under tension, rather than to provide an additional clamping surface. The width of the gap between the endcap and the vise additionally allows a few extra inches of clamping length from one end of the doghole row to the other.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mountain Ash View Post
    Do you clamp between the tail vise and the "apron" of the bench (not using dogs but the long end of the "L")?
    I just realized I didn't answer this bit above. Yes, that is possibly the best most useful clamping surface on the whole bench. The two jaws are lined with saddle leather and clamp very securely with minimal pressure.
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    Quote Originally Posted by doug3030 View Post
    I just realized I didn't answer this bit above. Yes, that is possibly the best most useful clamping surface on the whole bench. The two jaws are lined with saddle leather and clamp very securely with minimal pressure.
    Do you mean something like this?

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    that is absolutely disgusting woodwork .
    How dare you post such a beautiful piece fully naked showing all its glory and no dirt at all.

    Keep them coming please, I am jealous.
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    Hi guys, I really like Rob Colman’s bench hardware but it is very expensive to import with shipping and sales tax etc. Does anyone know if there is an importer into Aust for his products. There also doesn’t seem to be an alternate to his products shafts are twin start etc brass nuts etc etc.

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    Quote Originally Posted by stevenjd View Post
    Hi guys, I really like Rob Colman’s bench hardware but it is very expensive to import with shipping and sales tax etc. Does anyone know if there is an importer into Aust for his products. There also doesn’t seem to be an alternate to his products shafts are twin start etc brass nuts etc etc.
    Not sure of the relevance to Rob Cosman's vise hardware to my build, since I didn't use any of Rob's hardware and any resemblance to his bench is purely coincidental.

    The vise screws in my bench were purchased from Carbatec.
    Carbatec Tail Vice Hardware | Carbatec
    Carbatec Shoulder Vice Hardware | Carbatec

    The plan was slightly modified from the Frank Klausz workbench as seen in The Workbench Book by Scott Landis.
    More detailed plans are available here cheaply: Woodworker's Journal A Traditional European Workbench Plan | Rockler Woodworking and Hardware
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    Sorry Doug, I posted in the wrong place.

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    Quote Originally Posted by stevenjd View Post
    Sorry Doug, I posted in the wrong place.
    No problem at all Steven, hopefully my reply will help you find what you were looking for.
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    I have just started making the Moxon Vise to go on this bench. I figured I may as well post about it in the bench build thread as although it's is an accessory to the bench, in my mind it is really a part of the overall work-holding system that is the workbench.

    I am making my own hardware mainly because there isn't any kits out there that will do what I want them to d straight out of the box so I figured it would be easier to buy the raw materials and make it from scratch rather than messing around with modifying an existing article.

    I have a collection of recycled stair treads which will be great for the timber components. I wil be very loosely following the plan that was in the recent copy of Woodsmith Magazine but scaling it up so that it can take a 24 inch wide board because that will be big enough for the sides of the toolbox I will be making later.

    The handwheels were made similarly to the method used by Neil Paskin (Pask Makes) in Making a Moxon Vice - Scrapwood Challenge ep30 - YouTube

    They are just rough cut to shape in the pic and still need refining on the lathe.

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    I did a bit more on the vise screws today. It's more metalwork than woodwork today but the end result will be a woodworking vise. It's a means to an end.

    I mentioned in the previous post that I could not find a Moxon Vise Hardware kit anywhere that does what I want it to. The main issue I have with the kits is that when you wind the handles the handles turn on the threaded rods, whereas I want the handles to turn the threaded rods so that the rods retract into the vise with the movable jaw and not stick out into parts of me when I am trying to cut dovetails. This can be easily achieved by the use of garters.

    So today I mounted the threaded rods in the lathe, faced off the ends, drilled and tapped a hole which will hold the threaded rods into the handles, turned off the threads on the first 52mm or so down to a diameter of 1" (I have a forstner bit that size to make a matching mortise in the back of the handwheel) and cut a 2.5mm garter groove around the rod 2mm from the remaining thread. I will be milling the last inch or so of the end of the rods square to match a square hole I will mortise out into the handwheels below the 1" forstner bit hole, so that the wheels and rod turn as one unit. A round brass plate will be inset into the front of the boss on the handwheels held on by a brass screw into the end of the threaded rod.

    If some of the wording is hard to follow it will be clear when I post more progress pictures.

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