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1st January 2021, 02:07 AM #1Senior Member
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A wheely good workbench solution
Seasons greetings folks
Making some space in the workshop since I have got two benches to move about now.
Made some altercations to the base on my unused TS, and now need to get bench no.1 mobile to utilize it.
A bit rough, as made from offcuts, but with a bit o'paint that should go unnoticed.
The latch is probably a bit overcomplicated and could be made more low profile instead of using a large diameter pop up umbrella spring.
I have a partially broken return spring from the pillar drill somewhere,and that might be a nicer job.
Maybe for the second version which will go on the Scandi bench....
One assumes that you folks have seen Carl Holmgren's youtube's and maybe have done something similar of your own,
Would love to see some suggestions.
My main objective was the levers were as far back as I could get away with, so I could find that dropped cap iron screw or sweep up under the bench.
Seems this design, even with the paddles might do the trick on this long bench...
A shorter base might need a bit more steel and less ply.
Hopefully get the paint on today so can see how/if it works soon.
Just have some more jobs to paint aswell, so getting all done in a batch.
Getting a ballpark idea of where the hinges should go, somewhat fitting that they get used again from the doors where they came from.
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Once those paddles were attached I could get a better idea of which bits of steel to use, one could go anywhere from this part really, even simply using a bit of bar stock
would work for the time being.
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Mocking up some bits of pipe
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Took some head scratching to find stock for the latch
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Not much metal involved really
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Close up on the latch design needing tidying up.
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Since sandwiched another sheet of that thin ply to the paddles to raise the base up further, and some metal plates under the far set of casters.
Eager to see if it works!
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8th January 2021, 04:20 AM #2Senior Member
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Hello again
Happy new year to you all!.
Eventually got around to getting this done, a thick slathering of paint took a long time to dry, as the workshop is quite chilly.
I had some more things to make whilst I had metalwork and painting to do...
Some threadbar was scavenged, and I'd just enough nuts and washers to do the job.
Got around to testing it and pleased to say it works well
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I put a bend on the spring and drilled another hole since the last photos.
The spring might be a tad stiff for the job, ...
Or maybe I just need to take a file to the corner of the pedal and round it a bit...
or maybe unbolt the catch and add a bead of weld where it stops against the tab.
You might make out that it is canted forward slightly.
I'm thinking the witness marks on the paint might make it clear or not.
Still works without fault, but its just not quite as smooth and silent as it could be.
More of a case of the why might be the reason I would even bother sorting that, as
its not like I'm in an apartment or anything.
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Plenty of space for a shelf or to sweep or simply even, to find that dropped cap iron screw.
If it doesn't roll in behind the wheels that is, which would be very unlikely wouldn't it?
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Nice and level even with plenty of weight on it
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Why didn't ya do dis ages ago, and where's my shop bed goin?
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Ill make an update if I decide to go back at it again for whatever reason.
An interesting project to ponder about for the Scandi bench, as the base is a good bit shorter.
I'll take some trial and error I guess, rather than just finding two pipes which was pretty close or spot on the perfect length for the job.
Thanks for reading, be interesting to hear some ideas or tips
All the best folks
Tom
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9th January 2021, 03:18 AM #4Senior Member
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That was a very enjoyable watch Peter, the levers look very tidy.
What a great solution for one who wants an unobstructed access and vision for fallen items.
Very cool looking benches to have in the shop, I did ponder making something similar to your assembly bench in future if needed for outfeed/infeed.
Currently, as always I suppose, ,,,just trying to make some more space, and was thinking a similar thing might give some more options for moving everything about.
Would love to see some more on that sometime if you have a thread about it.
Will have to see how things go, as I may be able to actually use my TS now that I've got it rolling nicely, (bar the soft floor) so along with bench no.1 movable now
should make the shop more versatile.
Thanks for showing
Tom
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9th January 2021, 08:37 AM #5Senior Member
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Having another look at your design Peter now I have time to think about it.
It looks like something similar (but not concealed)
might be a better idea instead of the paddle designs for the next bench,
a shorter narrower base on a Scandi type with sleds might not lend itself as easily as this one, as the long lever might get a bit skyward,
Your solution might sort that out for me.
Would be very interesting to see some more about your design.
I may have to go digging for your old threads when the time comes to want it mobile.
(not even finished it yet though, so that will be a long time away yet.
Thanks again, definitely some food for thought
Cheers again
Tom
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17th January 2021, 06:40 PM #6Senior Member
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Well, twasn't long before more fettling was needed...
The spring kept undoing itself so it needed to be bolted down.
Luckily had enough of the take your face off handbag umbrella spring to have another go at it.
Took a bit of a fight with two pairs of vice grips and a pliers, but got there in the end.
Seems solid enough with a washer, I was thinking I might have to make some sort of wee plate for it to stay put, but it's not budging as it is, so will leave that for another day if it happens to wriggle it's way loose.
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Since I've messed around with now it for a bit, some might be interested on how well it works.
It wheels around very easily and puts up no fight whatsoever, which I was slightly surprised with, so this tells me the paddles/caster locations are not too long. (bearing in mind the base for this bench is pretty long)
It's not tippy either which was the biggest surprise.
(made note that the paddles do collect quite a bit of rubbish, so would go about it the same as I made on the tablesaw, much cleaner)
One thing that I didn't see coming, was the short lever will hit the ground if you wheel it to the left and crash into something, or jam the caster into an offcut.
This can be sorted easily with a stop, which I may well do in future.
I have yet to see how big of a deal that will be, was thinking of some sort of pin arrangement to catch into a slot on the long lever kinda thing, instead of drilling another hole into the bench strecher or having another lookalike pedal.
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Another more important issue might be for those with a bad floor.
I chose to make it lift quite tall off the ground, around an inch,
to account for tipping, and for waste not to get stuck whilst moving it.
I didn't do any calculations and just winged it with the metal I had.
If the floor is properly level where you drop the bench, the foot lever will be as you see it.
If you happen to have an area where it's not level, then that lever will lift up
and bottom out against the underside of the upper strecher of the bench, or get close to it.
This leaves little space for your foot, and a bit of footwork might be in order,
Another thing regarding the bottoming out of the pedal on the upper strecher, I got lucky as the bench lifts the height I wanted it to,,,
Note the higher the bench is lifted, the more chance of that pedal bottoming out, and stopping the bench from lowering/being stationary.
Mine might need a wiggle on the bad part of the floor, but with a small bit of weight that should swing those castors around.
Might be a millimetre or two too high, but might settle down after a while,
I will be keeping it there in the original location anyway, I like my back to the tools, and only moving it for use of the tablesaw most likely.
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I am very happy with it though, it makes the workshop seem much bigger now.
One safety aspect I will mention, as those likely interested making their bench mobile will have a cramped workshop, and might use it more than they think
they do!
I'm sure some of you might often do a poor man's pommel without knowing it! hopping over boxes of offcuts and the likes, like a gorilla...
DEPRESS the levers afterwards or you might end up landing on your aarse!
And as again, will do an update on how things go,
I might end up making a stop for the short lever in future if need be.
Very glad I made the base for this bench first, as the next design will be more involved.
Would be very interested to see some other ideas.
Thanks for looking
Tom
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