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    Default WIP - Bunnings materials...

    hello all....
    well it is now a WIP.
    I was aksing a few weeks ago about what people thought about utilising bunnings noggins for building a workbench.
    well....
    photo1: raw materials orientated so that all grain is in the same direction, and triangle marked, and numbered.
    I used 1 length as a template, to get the holes in all the noggins in allignment.
    photo2 n 3: after drilling and glue up. Glue up was done in 2 stages. with first half done, and then adding the rest on. I have put the rods 300mm from each end and then also in the middle. The reason why 300 from the end is because I want about 100mm overhang, then allowing about 100mm for legs, and space for the bolts for the vice to straddle the threaded rod. I ended up only needing to clamp the ends, and between threaded rods utilising bar clamps, rops and straps.

    WIP_01_01.jpgWIP_01_03.jpgWIP_01_02.jpg

    photo4: clamps off. looks good. will be some work involved with cleaning. (will use multiple planes... and more planing.. ) I am looking forward to that part.
    photo5 n 6: the rod sticking out the back. There is still one more piece of noggin that I am going to put on the back, I left the rod extra long so that when I go to put on the last noggin, the rod has already been chopped to a suitable length so that it doesn't stick out of a recessed hole. haven't decided, but will probably fill the space with putty/epoxy just so I know where the rod is, plus also so that little fingers don't play and undo the nuts.
    WIP_01_05.jpgWIP_01_04.jpgWIP_01_06.jpg

    photo7: this is a vice that was my grandfathers. My intent is to put it in the front left, inside the legs. I am planning on putting a hardwood front apron on the top, but not for a little while, and the back part of the vice behind the hardwood apron.
    it has a "little" play vertically... so I will attempt to clean up and see what the issue is. question: with these vices has anyone taken one of them completely apart? what I was thinking was to take it apart so that with the hardwood apron, the guide rods go through the wood, which would reduce the vertical play of the vice.
    WIP_01_07.jpg

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    noggins "mgp10 2.4mx35x90" x 20 = $100
    threaded rod 900mm x 12 x3 = free from friend
    glue aquahere 4 bottles x$12 = $50 ( I still have some leftover and will utilise it withe the base)
    drill bit to cater for rod. = $10 (I think it was about that)
    vice grandfathers. =$0

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    Interesting project. Will be watching.
    Bob

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    Have you considered removing the threaded rods now that it is all glued up?

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    Quote Originally Posted by mylesau View Post
    Have you considered removing the threaded rods now that it is all glued up?
    Hi,
    after doing the first half, I did take the rods out, and it seemed solid. BUT the only thing I am worried about is that all of these lengths have those "rough header" grooves still on them. I don't have access to a thicknesser and I didn't want to go through the pain of planing all the grooves off, and as such the advice I have had is that there isn't any guarantee that they would stay glued together. rwbuild mentioned this issue at https://www.woodworkforums.com/f213/b...0/#post1622513
    I am prepared to leave them in. in terms of bench top maintenance, there is still alot of wood between the top and the rods.

    Greg.

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    Default WIP - Bunnings materials...

    Looks interesting. Will watch this with interest.

    A bit late now I know, but if you were planning through mortises for the legs, you could have cut them before the glue up.

    Hope the rest of the build goes well.

    Trav
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    Should be an interesting build.
    I am using the same source of timber for my build - but planed all of the faces to maximise the contact.
    Can you imagine what I would do if I could do all I can? -- Sun Tzu

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    It will be an interesting build.

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    Looking good Greg!!!

    Just a word of advice on your DAWN quick release vise.

    Clean it well and make sure the quick release mechanism works perfectly.
    You will see there is a tongue of metal on the underside of the vise that
    engages the buttress thread. Make sure it works properly other wise you will
    have trouble - DAMHIK!

    Also don't be tempted to make the juw faces wider than the steel jaws or you
    will exacerbate any tendency for the vice to rack as it is tightened.

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    Default update - on hold :(

    well... I have had an eventful 5/6 days.

    first good news.
    Vice: I had been looking at options etc for a tail vice, and have decided to get a front vice from carbatec
    I ordered it early last week with the intent that it would arrive at work thurs/fri lastweek in time for my birthday last saturday(11-May). it would be a birthday present for myself. The intent was to put the new face vice on the front left, and then use the dawn on the end as a sort of tail vice, but also for my son to be able to work on the bench at the same time as myself.

    well... want went wrong?
    Thursday early morning started vomiting and continued all day, ended up going to emergency that evening, turned out I had to get my appendix out. that got done on friday evening, and it turned out I had a blood infection so had to stay in hospital till yesterday.
    Thats not the worst of it......
    both SWMBO and son had both been sick in the previous two weeks, so she has gone through and done a house clean, and i have been told to do the garage.plus... SWMBO has decided that I need to get my act into gear and get healthy and lose weight (I need to lose about 20kg), so I have to find something to do exercise wise. so I will have even less WW time that what I did have before.

    so... currently I don't have much strength around the tummy so no heavy lifting.
    one thing I was looking to do is that I had a spare plane blade, and was wanting to get it nice and curved like a scrub plane. does anyone have any methods of doing this without a form of grinder? some sort of jig that can be made ? I was hoping to use this for cleaning up the top of the bench....

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    Quote Originally Posted by artme View Post
    Looking good Greg!!!

    Also don't be tempted to make the juw faces wider than the steel jaws or you
    will exacerbate any tendency for the vice to rack as it is tightened.
    Hi Artme,
    thanks for that advice. with putting it on the end, I was thinking of just making the jaws about 2cm wider. just to hide those leading edges.

    greg.

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    Rotten luck with the family health issues Greg!! Hope all is well soon!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Greg_stewy View Post
    ........ SWMBO has decided that I need to get my act into gear and get healthy and lose weight (I need to lose about 20kg), so I have to find something to do exercise wise. so I will have even less WW time that what I did have before......
    One piece of advise (weather welcome or not) if SWMBO tells you to do something, do it. Now 20kg is a lot to loose but it will happen.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Christos View Post
    One piece of advise ... if SWMBO tells you to do something, do it.
    Let's not get carried away here ... we'd none of us have any tools left ... and be spending our time in flower-arranging classes.

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    Christos: yes I do need to obey swmbo. I am 6'2", big build and 110kg. ideal weight is 85 but if we get to 90 I am more than happy.
    McGee, don't worry I won't get carried away with "doing as I am told".

    okay.. getting back to the bench.

    the night before I had my appendix episode, I was able to trim off the excess bit of thread on the back and and glue on the last piece of timber of the back side. Nuts are all recessed. it has come out allright.
    WIP_02_01.jpg

    I also started flattening the top. I tried three different planes...
    The veritas LA Jack worked okay, but I ended up finding the handle was not quite at the best angle.
    The Record N06 had a nice amount of weight and comfy, but found it was a little to long for going across grain.
    The Bailey no4 1/2C ended up being the most comfortable. The good thing though was I had bought a thicker blade from lee valley for the No6, and it ended up being the correct size for the bailey. It is so much nicer than the thin original blade.WIP_02_02.jpg

    I finally was able to get to the office on monday and pick up my birthday present to myself.
    WIP_02_04.jpgWIP_02_03.jpg
    I am happy with it, and I think it will end up going very nicely. one thing though... the collets appear a little rough on the outwards facing face. I was wondering if this roughness would end up marring the timber that is in the vise.
    I was thinking of putting the belt sander to the collets to flatten them out.
    Has anyone else come across an issue of a rough collet? did you clean it up? after cleaning up, did you paint it with something?

    Progress is going to be slow on the bench. I still have abdominal pains at time, and you do use your core muscles whilst planning. I don't think I will be totally pain free for about another 2 weeks., but I am going to try and do the little fiddly bits a pieces.

    Thanks
    Greg.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Greg_stewy View Post
    I was wondering if this roughness would end up marring the timber that is in the vise.
    I was thinking of putting the belt sander to the collets to flatten them out.
    Your vice will be two timber jaws, won't it?
    I guess just some sandpaper or a file might clean them up.
    Paul

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