Thread: Plans for a Rose Engine?

Hi Jamesross l would like to have a go at making the rose lathe if you would like to e,mail me a copy of the plans l do not get the Australian woodworker over here in the uk. Thank you .Ken

Originally Posted by kenneth.widdall

Hi Jamesross l would like to have a go at making the rose lathe if you would like to e,mail me a copy of the plans l do not get the Australian woodworker over here in the uk. Thank you .Ken

Hi Ken, will do as soon as I can get the plans scaned into the computer.

http://ourworld.compuserve.com/homep...arr/lawler.htm

Ray Lawler
The Lawler Gear Corp.
1320 SE Hamblen Rd.
Lee's Summit, MO 64081
816-525-0002

Did you see the one above, it sounds formidable:

"... Standard ornamental turning equipment includes an Ornamental Slide Rest, Spiral Apparatus (16 gears for threading and spiraling), Curvilinear Apparatus (for full length tracing on the lathe), Overhead Drive System, Universal Cutting Frame and cutters, and the Drill Cutting Frame and cutters. Standard accessosries include a spur drive center, live tail stock center, face plate, 1" pin chuck, 3/4" pin chuck, and one set of wrenches. Available as accessories are an Eccentric Cutting Frame, Reciprocator, Ellipse Chuck and Cam Ring, a Compensating Index for the equal division of the ellipse, Eccentric/Rectilinear Chuck, Deep Cutting Frame, Fluting Stops, and slow-motion Gear Motor Drive."

http://www.knappstudios.com/index.htm

Has some lovely work both of rose engine made as well as kalidescopes items.

The spinning tops are brilliant.

Originally Posted by echnidna

Have a look at this aussie website
http://home.vicnet.net.au/~pwguild/o-rosego.htm

http://home.vicnet.net.au/~pwguild/o-rosejl.htm

is another example.

http://www.laymar-crafts.co.uk/links.htm is a very handy list of links related to make your own fittings & jigs (it included the 2 at vicnet).

I am a newbie, but I need your help in building an ornamental lathe like Geoff O'Loughlin made.

I cannot find a spindle like Geoff used to hold his bits. I pretty much have everything else, but the web page at http://home.vicnet.net.au/~pwguild/o-rosego.htm left off some critical information.

It looks like I will need to make my nuts smaller , as the normal nut is 1" wide and to hold the pumping and rocking templates will require 4 nuts, for a length of 3 -1/2".

James Ross sent me copies of the article from Australian woodworker Jan/Feb 03, but they were to small to read, even though they were a great help by looking at the pictures.

I was thinking of using a Dremel in lieu of the belt-driven spindle, but I'm not sure whether it'll have enough grunt. Only time will tell, when/if I get that far.

It should be a fairly simple matter to make a shaft/pulley assembly and fit a chuck from a battery/hand-held drill, although you'd need to allow extra room for fitting.

Hmmm... I'm glad you've brought it up... methinks I'd better source all these components before I continue building the base, so I can fit the base to the components and not waste time trying to source components to fit the base!

Originally Posted by Skew ChiDAMN!!

I was thinking of using a Dremel in lieu of the belt-driven spindle, but I'm not sure whether it'll have enough grunt. Only time will tell, when/if I get that far.

It should be a fairly simple matter to make a shaft/pulley assembly and fit a chuck from a battery/hand-held drill, although you'd need to allow extra room for fitting.

Hmmm... I'm glad you've brought it up... methinks I'd better source all these components before I continue building the base, so I can fit the base to the components and not waste time trying to source components to fit the base!

I had the same thoughts on the Dremel, so I decided to use my Roto-Zip, but that thing turns at 30k RPM. So Now I'm looking for a spindle that doesn't cost an arm and a leg in order to get the RPM down.

I have the rocking base built, but like you I'm waiting till I get everything before making the base.

i contacted several folks who have said it was ok to post their replies re the rose engine, you may like to get in touch with them also.

Tim
My partner Dave Lindow and I are making 10 rose machines. We will have the first proto type at the Nov show. We are trying to make a cast iron machine for as little as fifteen hundred dollars. The work and all the bills are not done so we dont really know the cost of the final machine. But we want to make it affordable.
I do have plans for a homeade rose engine. Look up Geoff O'Loughlin in a search and see if there is a blue print of hoe to.
If not I have plans I can send you.
Steve White
St. Louis Mo. USA


Yes you can post my responce.
It would cost about $2. to mail the plans. Or a DVD.
I have a homemade dvd that goes over my inventions on the rose. I dont know when I could get them to you as I leave town today for 14 days. I will check my email while Im gone.
Its easy to make a Rose engine but dont make on with threaded stock as the spindle.
Have a spindle made that is 1.000 with a 1in -8 threads per inch on the nose. I sell rosetts on ebay and through me. they are for 1.000 and they are $15 each. I sell themby sets only. 21 in a set. For $300. You can make rosetts but they take a lot of time and have to be done right.
Look at ebay and see them.
Steve


If you would like to email Steve, noting that he will be away for 14 days, then:

Swhitefrog AT aol DOT com

make the changes as necessary to the email address.

Originally Posted by tashammer

i contacted several folks who have said it was ok to post their replies re the rose engine, you may like to get in touch with them also.

Tim
My partner Dave Lindow and I are making 10 rose machines. We will have the first proto type at the Nov show. We are trying to make a cast iron machine for as little as fifteen hundred dollars. The work and all the bills are not done so we dont really know the cost of the final machine. But we want to make it affordable.
I do have plans for a homeade rose engine. Look up Geoff O'Loughlin in a search and see if there is a blue print of hoe to.
If not I have plans I can send you.
Steve White
St. Louis Mo. USA


Yes you can post my responce.
It would cost about $2. to mail the plans. Or a DVD.
I have a homemade dvd that goes over my inventions on the rose. I dont know when I could get them to you as I leave town today for 14 days. I will check my email while Im gone.
Its easy to make a Rose engine but dont make on with threaded stock as the spindle.
Have a spindle made that is 1.000 with a 1in -8 threads per inch on the nose. I sell rosetts on ebay and through me. they are for 1.000 and they are $15 each. I sell themby sets only. 21 in a set. For $300. You can make rosetts but they take a lot of time and have to be done right.
Look at ebay and see them.
Steve


If you would like to email Steve, noting that he will be away for 14 days, then:

Swhitefrog AT aol DOT com

make the changes as necessary to the email address.

Thanks. This is where I am at right now and it's a WIP.

Also, I have started to rethink the cutter and speed. Because I plan on using the lathe for ornamental work, I shouldn't need a big ole cutter taking large chunks or otherwise. So, I may go back to the Dremel.