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    Default Searching Again Bandsaw in Sydney

    Hi all,
    The bandsaw I just bought was a dud so I’m searching for another.
    As I do my work from a wheelchair it needs to be on the smaller side to manage, single phase and decent quality. I’m constantly checking eBay and Gumtree.
    Thanks in advance for any leads. Cheers Matt


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    Matt, what makes you say it is a dud? Let us know what the problem is and we may be able to help. I too use a chair so I understand that your choices are limited. Many are the bandsaws that have been flogged off as duds when all they needed was a good tune up.

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    Quote Originally Posted by rustynail View Post
    Matt, what makes you say it is a dud? Let us know what the problem is and we may be able to help. I too use a chair so I understand that your choices are limited. Many are the bandsaws that have been flogged off as duds when all they needed was a good tune up.
    The one I sourced had a crack in the back of the top flywheel and no blade guides. It’s been returned so the search is on again.
    Yes options for us are limited being in chairs but hopefully someone might have something to suit.
    Cheers


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    Also look on Facebook market place.

    I have been looking for a couple of months now but keep just missing out


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    Also search for band saw and some people don’t realise it is one word

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    Yep, that would certainly count as a dud!

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    I was looking for quite a long time - the issue being that people have VERY unrealistic expectations on how much their used machinery is worth. I eventually bought a Hare & Forbes BP-310 and its been working really well. (Would have liked a bigger saw but my minuscule space did not accommodate a larger machine)

    I would look at a new saw, as I suspect you will not spend a lot more, and will have the comfort of it being under warranty.

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    also depending what you're using it for bunnings have some fairly cheap smaller bench size models as well.

    also if money is a problem (why you're considering 2nd hand) and you want new, maybe consider finding a place that might let you do after pay etc to at least break it up into smaller amounts.

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    Default Scrollsaw?

    Have you considered using a scrollsaw?

    Im using an Excalibur 21". Its no different to any other, really, but I've some blades that are very aggressive.

    I've cut 90x45 MGP10 pine regularly with it, plus a variety of hardwoods. Absolutely no problem what so ever.

    Admittedly one cant do resawing with it, but it might be an option?

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    Quote Originally Posted by woodPixel View Post
    Have you considered using a scrollsaw?

    Im using an Excalibur 21". Its no different to any other, really, but I've some blades that are very aggressive.

    I've cut 90x45 MGP10 pine regularly with it, plus a variety of hardwoods. Absolutely no problem what so ever.

    Admittedly one cant do resawing with it, but it might be an option?
    Hey Woodpixel

    Thanks so much for the suggestion.
    No I haven’t considered a scroll saw. I’ve always thought of them as being a bit of a toy for very thin work?? Maybe that’s just my uneducated view??
    Wouldn’t you spend all day trying to cut through a 90 x 45mm?
    Sorry I don’t mean any offence, I’ve just never used them before.


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    I don't honestly know. I read that you were in a chair and thought about it a bit.

    Getting the bandsaw angle right, say by putting the bandsaw at 45° then tipping the cutting table to compensate, but then I recalled seeing a few Instagram videos of scrollsaw clubs in the USA. Many of the scrollers are older. They want to woodwork, but making 6-seater tables is no longer on the cards, so they scroll.

    Some of them were using their scrollsaws to work tree branches. No just thin 3mm MDF or ply.

    My experience is that it does take a LITTLE bit more time, but no more effort. When I said the blade was toothy, it is at least as toothy as the 1/4" bandsaw blades I used on the 14" Laguna SUV (now in storage).

    I recall making many cuts into 32mm MDF with ordinary scrollsaw blades when I was making dolls shadow houses on commission for a kids retailer. There was no difficulty and the machine didn't bog down.

    I've my scrollsaw on the balcony. I'll make a video tomorrow with some thick scrap.



    Edit: It was only an idea, a suggestion. I don't know what your intentions are, so I don't want to mislead you into a dud purchase!

    Here are some blades: Olson Thick Wood Scrollsaw Blades

    I've just found out that electric guitar guys often cut their 50mm bodies out on scrollsaws...

    And this dude is using a stupid little fine blade just fine....

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    Matt, Can you give us an idea of the type of work you need to perform, from which we can make an assessment of the type of machine required. I run a BAS500 bandsaw. It is easy to move around in the workshop due to the light weight, but does require a high perch to sit at. A mate of mine is diabled to the extent that he can't stand from a wheel chair to reposition himself on a higher seat so I let his bandsaw down into a recess in the floor of his workshop. It does mean that he can't wheel it around but he can rotate it within the hole to suit long lengths. It works well for him.

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    Default Searching Again Bandsaw in Sydney

    Quote Originally Posted by woodPixel View Post
    I don't honestly know. I read that you were in a chair and thought about it a bit.

    Getting the saw angle right, say be putting the bandsaw at 45° then tipping the table to compensate, but then I recalled seeing a few Instagram videos of scrollsaw clubs in the USA. Many of the scrollers are older. They want to woodwork, but making tables is no longer on the cards, so they scroll.

    Some of them were using their saws to work branches. No just thin 3mm MDF of ply.

    My experience is that it does take a LITTLE bit more time, but no more effort. When I said the blade was toothy, it is at least as toothy as the 1/4" bandsaw blades I used on the 14" Laguna SUV (now in storage).

    I recall making many cuts into 32mm MDF with ordinary scrollsaw blades when I was making dolls shadow houses on commission for a kids retailer. There was no difficulty and the machine didnt bog down.

    Ive my saw on the balcony. I'll make a video tomorrow with some thick scrap.



    Edit: It was only an idea, a suggestion. I don't know what your intentions are, so I don't want to mislead you into a dud purchase!

    Here are some blades: Olson Thick Wood Scrollsaw Blades

    Ive just found out that electric guitar guys often cut their 50mm bodies out on scrollsaws...

    And this dude is using a stupid little fine blade just fine....

    I really appreciate your input.
    Every piece of info is useful.
    It’s now something that I’m seriously considering
    I’d really appreciate seeing a video if it’s not too much trouble


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    Quote Originally Posted by rustynail View Post
    Matt, Can you give us an idea of the type of work you need to perform, from which we can make an assessment of the type of machine required. I run a BAS500 bandsaw. It is easy to move around in the workshop due to the light weight, but does require a high perch to sit at. A mate of mine is diabled to the extent that he can't stand from a wheel chair to reposition himself on a higher seat so I let his bandsaw down into a recess in the floor of his workshop. It does mean that he can't wheel it around but he can rotate it within the hole to suit long lengths. It works well for him.
    I’m mainly doing tables, chairs etc.
    I have a decent track saw and cross cut jig and I’m mainly using mortise and tenon joints.
    Timber is at a max 40mm thick
    Currently I’m making a lot of workshop jigs using up to 19mm mdf with a lot of curves.
    Maybe the scroll saw concept is the way to go?


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    It was only a bit of an idea. Please dont convince yourself based only on my recommendation!

    I went over my post #13 above just now. When I typed it up on the phone (in bed!), the autocorrect buggered half of what I wrote! (be nice if the forum were more mobile friendly!... too tiny on the phone)

    If I may offer another suggestion? I've been using Japanese hand tools a lot. Especially the saws. They are incredible. Absolutely incredible, in fact. This is partly why the bandsaw is in storage (I had to move to a small unit).

    There are many videos on youtube showing their use.

    e.g. japanese handsaws at DuckDuckGo

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