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18th December 2017, 09:02 PM #1
Set of 10 Japanese Chisels
I have for sale a set of 10 JP chisels. I don't know a great deal about them other than I bought them from Japan several years ago and have only used them very lightly.They would suit a buyer looking for a new set at this entry level. In fact the four largest chisels have never been used. The backs could stand a touch more flattening, which I estimate would take a couple of minutes per chisel, but I have not trouble to do this as they were quite sharp enough for my purposes anyway.
My take on them is that they are probably entry level to this genre, but that is a little unkind as it puts them on a similar footing to s Stanley Fat Max, which of course they are not. I am not sure how the Japanese would describe them. They are a general purpose chisel so would probably come in as the category oire-nomi or bench chisels, However, if I have got this wrong I am very happy for somebody to correct me.
The handles are Japanese Red oak and bound by a steel ferrule at the top. A couple of ferrules are a little loose and in the past I glued two more ferrules in place so they were not lost. I think it is a problem of being where we live and the dryness resulting in a little more shrinkage. The smallest chisel (3mm) is not quite straight when sighted down the length. I think a result of the forging process as it was like that from when I took delivery. I also believe the chisels to be hand forged rather than mass produced. They are not however a "signature" set ( or I would be asking $165 for each chisel or more likely not selling them . )
Included is a chrome leather tool roll and some of the chisels have a small plastic cover that sits inside the individual pocket to protect the tips or really to stop the chisel escaping through the leather. (I think a couple or maybe three are missing).
I am asking $165 for the set of 10 with free postage anywhere in Australia. Anywhere other than Australia please contact me for a price, but I will deduct the equivalent Aussie postage from overseas shipping. I am placing them on the Forums until the New Year at which time, if they have not sold, I will put them on Ebay at a higher price.
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None of the chisels have been sharpened more than three times, but I sharpened all of them today (even those I have never used - don't know why ). I am offloading them because, even as chronic hoarder I can't justify four sets of chisels plus numerous sundry chisels and I am expecting a new set in the post any day now. All of them are user sets. Besides which, if I start collecting chisels, I will have to wind back on the hand saws (Note to self: remember to look up meaning of "wind back.")
The chisel sizes are as follows. Please note that there is some slight irregularity in the sizing which lends support to them being hand forged. For me it has an added appeal but if you want your 3mm chisel to be exactly 3mm or the 41mm chisel to be exactly 40mm and the 9mm chisel to be 10mm, this set is not for you .
3.25mm
6mm
9mm
12mm
15mm
18mm
24mm
30mm
36mm
41mm
If you would like more precise measurements (with a digital vernier gauge) please let me know and I will provide the same corrected to two places of decimals.
Regards
PaulBushmiller;
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18th December 2017, 09:35 PM #2
Hi Paul,
Could you find out postage to the US for me on these? If reasonable I'd like them. Cleaning inbox next.
Thanks,
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18th December 2017, 09:39 PM #3GOLD MEMBER
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I'm interested if Rob chooses to pass due to postage.
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18th December 2017, 09:44 PM #4SENIOR MEMBER
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Millerman if Rob decides not to purchase these I would like to have second option.Birthday present to myself
cheers.....Roy
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18th December 2017, 10:20 PM #5
Kuffy and Roy
I have contacted Rob to let him know the extortionate cost of shipping to the US. If he decides not to contribute single handedly to Australia Post entering the black for the first time this century, you two are next in line in order of posting. I just wish I had some more sets .
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18th December 2017, 10:52 PM #6
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19th December 2017, 11:47 AM #7GOLD MEMBER
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That is a very good price! GLWS
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19th December 2017, 12:02 PM #8
Cava
That's what my wife said. It's funny how she who does not know which end of a tool to hold (what did I just say? ) becomes an instant expert as soon as money is involved.
The fact is that I wished to sell these chisels rather than have them sit around doing sweet Fanny Adams for the next six months.
Rob Streeper has decided to help out with Australia Post's bottom line and has confirmed he will take them. In fact he has already paid for them and advised that he will incorporate them into his programme of hardness testing of chisels, which in itself is a development of the hardness testing of vintage hand saws.. If you have missed this evaluation, you can see it in this thread:
Chisel Hardness Study, the first step.
My apologies to Kuffy and Roy that you have missed out. There is a wild rumour floating around about some geezer who reputedly can stretch out fishes. If he passes by Millmerran I will ask him if his expertise extends to JP chisels.
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19th December 2017, 01:18 PM #9
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19th December 2017, 06:21 PM #10Taking a break
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I have the same set and am mostly pleased with them.
The 3 smallest ones in my set are pretty much useless as the lamination line is all over the place and there's soft steel in the cutting edge, yours appear to be a bit better. I also have a hairline fracture in the middle of the largest one, which makes it scrap metal.
The other 6 take a very fine edge and hold a workable edge for a long time and I use them with a regular hammer, not a mallet.
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19th December 2017, 06:47 PM #11
Thanks EJ
You have cleared up one aspect for me that I have since contacted Rob about. I had thought they were laminated (soft iron back to hard cutting edge), but wasn't 100% sure. I have already posted them off and alerted Rob to the fact they may have a soft back. As he will be subjecting them to his hardness testing I had this vision of him testing the back and asking the great wood working god what in hell had he got here. In addition, my ears would have dissolved off from high temperature.
I didn't notice the problems you have outlined, but I think you would have used yours more than I used mine. One chisel had a small chip at the cutting edge, testifying to their hardness perhaps, but I sharpened that out. I hope Rob will find them both interesting and useful. He has already debunked some myths over tools reputations so even allowing for this JP set being at the lower end of the market it will be an interesting East - West comparison.
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1st January 2018, 11:27 PM #12
Rob has received the chisels and if anybody is interested he has measured their hardness. The results can be seen in post #54 (no name JP bench chisels) in his thread on the subject.
Chisel Hardness Study, the first step.
They did OK .
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2nd January 2018, 08:01 PM #13
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2nd January 2018, 08:49 PM #14
Johnno
I used them on Forest Red Gum, Ironbark, Spotted Gum Casuarina Oaks and sundry other unknown brutal hardwoods. I did chip the edge of one chisel, but that might have been my heavy handedness. I don't think many chisels stand up well to that selection of timbers. However, as I mentioned before, neither did I put them to a lot of use.
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