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17th November 2020, 07:18 PM #1
Kumiko slats - EOI - supply - 4mm x 50/60mm
This isn't a direct sale. Its an Expression Of Interest *
I'll add a survey once I've posted this.
The idea is that Kumiko is a bit hard for people without machinery to make the slats. Its do-able, but a bit laborious.
I have sourced a place where I can buy both a one-off and continuous supply of
-- 4mm x 50/60mm slats in Beech and Western Red Cedar. Potential of Tassie Oak and Basswood.
-- 4mm x 60mm in Obeche (an African timber similar to Bass)
-- 500mm to 3200mm
-- Perfect straightness, perfectly knot free
-- Rough finished, so you must finish the prep yourself
-- Come in packs of 100 and 250 slats of a suitable length
-- This may be 1000mm, 2400mm or 3200mm but will ultimately be up to the factory
-- NSW Oz made** Not imports or an Alibaba thing.
I'll post prices ASAP, but they will be CHEAP (think fourty cents a metre (?))
These are NOT seconds. They are sawn timber Venetian slats before they are sucked into the shapers, sanders, drillers, etc.... They are "pulled off the line" after sawing and before further processing. Therefore, no holes, no rounded edges, no finishing/coating.
The factory I've found is highly agreeable to doing this, in fact, excited.
Simply pop an EOI on the survey (if I can get it to work) or say "me" (or something) in a comment so you can follow the thread. I'll update this as it occurs.
USE
-- They are ~4mm thick
-- They are pretty smooth, but the factory uses huge belt sanders to finish them to 3mm for their products
-- The buyer will need to process them the same way as their own-made Kumiko slats.... that is:
-- Slice them into 12mm widths (four per stick!)
-- smooth plane them to width (12mm?) and width (3mm?) in their own jigs
This is NOT a group buy, but an outgrowth of a personal need into an opportunity for others.
* this probably breaks all the forum rules. Apologies!
** yep. Right here in Oz. We can support local growers and businesses.
Example of the stacks they generate....
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17th November 2020, 07:53 PM #2
I’m interested; I’ve recently purchased a pair of Kumiko jigs from Wigwood and was looking at having to rip up some DAR to get the raw materials to practice with. I’m hoping I can get some of the local Guilds and Mens Sheds members interested in this aspect of woodworking.
Slightly off topic, are there any pattern books you would recommend?Nothing succeeds like a budgie without a beak.
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17th November 2020, 08:28 PM #3
Thanks for posting this Woodpixel!
Rather than just "me" or "I'm in", let me potentially give you some useful data.
I would be keen on packs of 100, and in order of preference for timber species from those listed, would take Basswood, Beech, Tasmanian Oak, Obeche, Western Red Cedar. Also open to other timbers, potentially even dark coloured timber (e.g. Jarrah etc).
If things work out, this would be something I would be keen on obtaining more than once - i.e. there would be the potential of repeat needs in time to come.
Given the lengths you nominate, transport could be challenging, but I would actually be prepared to travel to Canberra (assuming you're dealing with someone local?) to pick up (and would order a couple packs to make that trip worthwhile) should courier or other transport not be possible or be prohibitively expensive.
Hope this helps your deliberations, I am super-keen to find out more!
I know very little - am just starting in my Kumiko journey, but Des King I believe has a series of books covering many patterns, and I often hear them spoken of with high regard. Take a look here: D & M King | Shoji | Publications ::
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17th November 2020, 08:59 PM #4
Midnight Man is 100% correct on Des Kings books - all four are deeply comprehensive.
Postage - well, its early days, but as anyone who bought timbers off me in the 2019 great Timber Purge would know, I get astounding rates from my couriers.
Size is simply not a consideration - end location is.
For delivery, they will be packaged in the same way as commercial timber Venetian blinds would be at Bunnings/Spotlight. They will be packed into a standard plastic box (recyclable), just like a blind.
At the moment though, just looking for EOI's......
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17th November 2020, 11:25 PM #5
I can think of other applications for material such as this other than Kumiko.
However I have no immediate need right now.
In the past I have done this sort of backwards - recycling old timber blind slats into other items.
I don't think I would use a great quantity in my lifetime but I would mostly want pieces up to 1 metre in length and various timbers.
Great idea Evan. Thanks for sharing.
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18th November 2020, 07:40 AM #6Senior Member
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Kumiko slats
Im interested in say 100-200 mixed timbers 1000mm lengths
cheers
john
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18th November 2020, 04:19 PM #7
Count me in, I want to do some Kumiko of an evening but being away from machines has made it rough.
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18th November 2020, 07:04 PM #8New Member
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I am very interested in this new source of wood. Keen to participate and would especially be interested in a picking up option.
Please keep me posted.
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19th November 2020, 07:21 AM #9SENIOR MEMBER
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kumiko woods
I'm interested and have voted.
Mix of woods, big pack, any and all lengths to 2400mm.
Like the Chief, I have the Wigwood jigs.
I have the Des King books - an excellent reference and guide.
Looking for a good set of Japanese saws and a kanna.
Nice to see support for local business - good luck with the enterprise!
phil
edit - on reflection, probably unlikely to need more than 1000mm lengths, as the framing will be something else....
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19th November 2020, 03:16 PM #10SENIOR MEMBER
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Always happy to buy more timber.
And also 2nd/3rd and 4th Des Kings Kumiko books. He also has a youtube video walking you through some of his patterns.
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26th November 2020, 05:15 PM #11
PACKAGE DEAL - 100 for $75
(edit: confirming if its 100 metres or 100 lengths...)
Here is a deal set up and ready to go.
This bloke on ebay will package up 100 metres of these slats and post them to you for $75.
Kindling Timber Kiln Dried Venetian Blind Slats Craftwood Toys Paint Stirers New 797776144891 | eBay
I tried buying the lot, but its all too hard. The guy simply can't be engaged to do a bulk deal.... so small numbers it is for the moment.
When buying, put in the NOTES/COMMENTS FIELD that it is for the 100 metre bundle.
No doubt he'll put a proper ad up soon.
NOTE: this is NOT the continuous factory things I was talking about in the first post. They are getting back to me with a rip-snorter of an all-singing deal including packaging, etc.....
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28th November 2020, 09:29 AM #12New Member
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Yes, I'm interested, especially in beech and basswood as I think that the grain would be great for kumiko. [emoji1303][emoji1303][emoji1303][emoji1303]
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30th November 2020, 05:41 PM #13New Member
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Interested in this also
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12th December 2020, 10:07 AM #14
I’m very interested, but what is freight to Perth like?
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12th December 2020, 11:51 AM #15
The info on ordering is in post 11.
The vendor is on ebay and based in queensland.
I have to admit, just as a thing, is how hard it is to do a simple deal in Australia. Emailing and using chat with China and Vietnam is a pleasure. It's a matter of explanation, a bit of specification, postage calculation and ordering. They follow up. They come back. They don't attempt to gouge the hell out of you. It's simple.
Not so with Aussie businesses. It is, at every stage, the opposite. At every stage they have done their utmost to stifle, kill and control the transaction.
It has worn me out.
The eBay vendor is the only local one I've had any success with.... even then he tried to take advantage of me by padding the postage and jaming GST on to an eBay sale.....
... Sigh.....
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