Canary Wood Box Pt 1 (with floating lid...hopefully !!!)

**Ed Reiss** · 10th August 2009, 12:14 PM

Originally Posted by Ozkaban

Nice WIP and the results are stunning

As the chapes of the lid and box are so different, you would want to take a lot of care drilling the holes for the magnets - it wouldn't need to be out by too much for it all to not line up... Well done, looks sensational!

Cheers,
Dave

Dave, took that into consideration when turning the rim area of the lid and base...made sure that they were parallel to each other, not concave. Then, if you notice in the drill press set-up, I used the V of the try square to set the circular base of the chuck against it in order to get the same orientation for both sides. For the other half it was just a matter of re-setting the try square for the other chucks base. (hope this makes sense

)

The problem I ran into was that the small diameter drill bit wanted to skate on the endgrain of the dense cocobolo...might not have done it on a softer wood, so live and learn (and man, do I still have a lot to learn !!!!)

**Skew ChiDAMN!!** · 10th August 2009, 03:12 PM

I wonder how an old dowelling jig would go for keeping the drill bit positioned? Assuming one can be found of suitable size, of course.

**Happy amateur** · 10th August 2009, 06:51 PM

This might help.
Mark the point on the lid where the holes will be drilled for the magnets.
Drive a small pin/nail into the centre. cut short and file point on the pin/nail.
line up the top with the base and press together which should give you marks for the holes on the base. Use a bradpoint bit which should prevent movement of the drill bit.

Hope this makes sense.

Fred

**Ed Reiss** · 10th August 2009, 09:23 PM

Originally Posted by Skew ChiDAMN!!

I wonder how an old dowelling jig would go for keeping the drill bit positioned? Assuming one can be found of suitable size, of course.

hmmmm....nothing preventing from making a custom metal jig for that size hole.

Originally Posted by Happy amateur

This might help.
Mark the point on the lid where the holes will be drilled for the magnets.
Drive a small pin/nail into the centre. cut short and file point on the pin/nail.
line up the top with the base and press together which should give you marks for the holes on the base. Use a bradpoint bit which should prevent movement of the drill bit.

Hope this makes sense.

Fred

good idea on the pin/nail thing
I checked on a brad point that small...couldn't find one

**Sawdust Maker** · 11th August 2009, 10:38 AM

What about dowel centre markers?

and you can get brad point bits down do a couple of mm

what's the diameter of the magnets?

**Ed Reiss** · 11th August 2009, 11:44 AM

Originally Posted by Sawdust Maker

What about dowel centre markers?

the smallest dowel center markers I can get are 1/4" ...too large

and you can get brad point bits down do a couple of mm

where?

what's the diameter of the magnets?

3.2mm

.

**Sawdust Maker** · 11th August 2009, 12:20 PM

In you neck of the woods

Highland Woodworking
I searched under 'brad point' here

Woodcraft
here

I got mine from Carbatec here in Sydney

Thought the dowel centres may have been too large, oh well

happy hunting

**Ed Reiss** · 11th August 2009, 09:47 PM

Thanks Nick...guess I should have explained further. No brad point bits available locally (home depot, lowe's, town hardware, etc.)

Did not want to order just one drill bit from Highland...the shipping would have been much more than the cost.

**Sawdust Maker** · 11th August 2009, 10:04 PM

Originally Posted by Ed Reiss

Thanks Nick...guess I should have explained further. No brad point bits available locally (home depot, lowe's, town hardware, etc.)

Did not want to order just one drill bit from Highland...the shipping would have been much more than the cost.

But this is for the challenge - so no expense should be spared

You'll be reported to Tea Lady for not going the extra yard

well actually ... fair enough, I wouldn't have either

**KenW** · 13th August 2009, 06:21 PM

Ed, What glue did you use to stick the Cocobolo?

**Ed Reiss** · 13th August 2009, 09:35 PM

Good question Ken. I use Titebond II (pva), and just prior to the glue-up, wiped down the cocobolo with acetone to remove any surface oil.

**KenW** · 14th August 2009, 09:27 PM

Originally Posted by Ed Reiss

Good question Ken. I use Titebond II (pva), and just prior to the glue-up, wiped down the cocobolo with acetone to remove any surface oil.

Thanks Ed, I will remeber the acetone trick.

**Skew ChiDAMN!!** · 16th August 2009, 07:37 PM

That works with almost any oily woods, Ken.

You need to glue up ASAP though, before any residual oils return to the surface.

**tea lady** · 17th August 2009, 11:22 AM

We've told Ken something he didn't know.

**KenW** · 17th August 2009, 08:51 PM

Originally Posted by Skew ChiDAMN!!

That works with almost any oily woods, Ken.

You need to glue up ASAP though, before any residual oils return to the surface.

Thanks Skew

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