Thread: Silly questions about turned boxes.

1. Inny or outy? Does the lid flank thingy go on the lid or the body of the box? On the two I've made I've got one of each. "think" Think I like the look of the lid sittin ginside the base. But I guess like all things, the answer is prolly "it depends."

A professional demonstrator said once that the lid should fit on the outside of the base so that if the box (could be you know) was filled to the top then the lid would still go on.
Makes sense depending on what the box was made for.

Fred

Depends partly on the design of the box. The shape of the little box I made with a finial dictates that the lid has to be an inny. Otherwise I have so far made them outys - one advantage is the flange doesn't intrude into the space inside the box so it can be quite long which helps with jam fits when making the box.

Light touches with a scraper to get the end grain as good as possible help with the subsequent sanding. Then a dowl or a bit of an old thong (as suggested by Skew somewhere) helps get the sandpaper to the bottom of the box if it is small.

I ask myself this question:

What would I rather see when the lid is off? The naturally finished lip of the box or a machined step on the lip. Personally I'd prefer to put the machined step on the lid rather than the base.

If you do need to put a step on the base then it would be more aesthetic to put it on the inside of the lip - hence the lid would be an innie.

Cheers,

FrankG

Originally Posted by efgee88

I ask myself this question:

What would I rather see when the lid is off? The naturally finished lip of the box or a machined step on the lip. Personally I'd prefer to put the machined step on the lid rather than the base.

If you do need to put a step on the base then it would be more aesthetic to put it on the inside of the lip - hence the lid would be an innie.

Cheers,

FrankG

My thoughts to, but if you put the lid down and it gets some dirt on the "flange" (is that the right word? ) then when you put he lid on it goes in the box.

Originally Posted by Happy amateur

A professional demonstrator said once that the lid should fit on the outside of the base so that if the box (could be you know) was filled to the top then the lid would still go on.
Makes sense depending on what the box was made for.

Fred

With the one I'm doing at the moment that would be impossible. This has to be decided by the design.

Originally Posted by kdm

Then a dowl or a bit of an old thong (as suggested by Skew somewhere) helps get the sandpaper to the bottom of the box if it is small.

Thong? thong? what kind of thong?

heehee

Originally Posted by ElizaLeahy

Thong? thong? what kind of thong?

heehee

A rubber one?

Not sure if that is uncomfortable or kinky...

I saw something somewhere about sanding the bottom of vessels... Let me see if I can find it

http://www.davidreedsmith.com/Articl...BallSander.htm

and here is another one I think

http://home.comcast.net/~kvaughn65/passive_sander.jpg

Originally Posted by tea lady

Is there any other kind?

1. Inny or outy? Does the lid flank thingy go on the lid or the body of the box? On the two I've made I've got one of each. Think I like the look of the lid sittin ginside the base. But I guess like all things, the answer is prolly "it depends."

2. Sanding end grain in the bottom of boxes. Any tips? Or is this why flocking was invented? I was doing one in Sassafrass tonight and I couldn't get all the tear out out. Bit of sandng sealler?

That's enough for now.

Tea Lady, you (along with many others here on the forum) are starting to.... frustrate/ inspire me, if nothing else.

You turn better than I do. True. Good on you.

But to be a better turner, you must learn I think (another gem from ) to work things out for yourself. I put my hand up all the time for help, but sometimes I think I need to work it out myself. That's the hard part, isn't it?

PS. Redgum stumpts waiting for collection. Are you coming this weekend?

Originally Posted by jefferson

PS. Redgum stumpts waiting for collection. Are you coming this weekend?

ARGH it's not fair!

We need them to develop a transporter.

Originally Posted by tea lady

Is there any other kind?

1. Inny or outy? Does the lid flank thingy go on the lid or the body of the box? On the two I've made I've got one of each. Think I like the look of the lid sittin ginside the base. But I guess like all things, the answer is prolly "it depends."

2. Sanding end grain in the bottom of boxes. Any tips? Or is this why flocking was invented? I was doing one in Sassafrass tonight and I couldn't get all the tear out out. Bit of sandng sealler?

That's enough for now.

What tool are you using to hollow your box?
There shouldn't be any tear out before you sand.
Tear out is removed with tools not sandpaper.

Originally Posted by KenW

What tool are you using to hollow your box?
There shouldn't be any tear out before you sand.
Tear out is removed with tools not sandpaper.

A spindle gouge and a scraper. (Haven't got a detail gouge. Will have to wait until xmas. )

The grain at the bottom is a little eccentric. There is a knot just under it and the grain goes kinda diagonal. I was trying to do a similar thing to what you were showing us at the "sharp weekend" with the detail gouge. Its been working a treat, but this wood is a bit contrary. Will fiddle with it tomorrow and try a few things.

Originally Posted by tea lady

A spindle gouge and a scraper. (Haven't got a detail gouge. Will have to wait until xmas. )

The grain at the bottom is a little eccentric. There is a knot just under it and the grain goes kinda diagonal. I was trying to do a similar thing to what you were showing us at the "sharp weekend" with the detail gouge. Its been working a treat, but this wood is a bit contrary. Will fiddle with it tomorrow and try a few things.

You will have to shear scrape the bottom to get rid of the tearout.