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    Default Cutting Sheet Roofing Material

    I have a mountain of second hand roofing iron to cut to length and trim for my shed. I am looking at a nibbler and have some specific questions as I have never used or even held one, but before that a very quick take on the cutting options as I see it:

    Tin snips: Burr free, cheap, slow. My son uses a left and right cutter simultaneously and is quite proficient. I'm not!

    Fibre cutting disc: Used with circular saw or angle grinder. Quick, noisy, wears away really fast on roofing profiles for some reason and ends up being expensive because of the number of discs used. Leaves a nasty burr.

    Jigsaw with metal blade: I don't really like jigsaws, but it would be OK. Leaves a burr. Would use a lot of blades.

    Circular saw with reversed HSS woodcutting blade
    : Until this job, this has been my preferred method of cutting sheet steel. It lasts for ever and is very quick. Extremely noisy and leaves a nasty burr. (Make very certain the blade is put in the opposite way to that for cutting wood or you will be sorry.)

    Any of the above are fine for short runs of cutting and indeed I have all of the above so cost is not a factor apart from the consumables aspect. The last option would be again my preference but I don't want the burr or the metal spatter associated, so I am looking at a nibbler.

    Nibblers are:

    Expensive
    There may be different types for cutting roof profiles as opposed to flat sheet.
    How quickly do the rods (punches?) wear?
    Long cutting head or short?
    If a short head is used presumably you have to hold the tool at 90 degrees to the cut.
    Are the cheaper versions ($200) satisfactory compared to Bosch, Hitachi, Makita, Metabo etc ($500 to $800)? Although I regard this as a larger job, it is still only one job. I might have around 100 to 200 cuts to perform.

    Anything else I should look for?

    Any advice you have would be appreciated.

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    Are we talking corrugated iron/custom orb?

    If so, you can rip it.

    Put a cut in it with the tin snips where you want to start, lay a bit of timber along the 'good' of the line you want to 'cut' to & put your foot on it, grab the waste side of the nick your cut & pull upwards.

    It rips like cardboard.

    I use nibblers for the detail work, IE scribing.
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    Here ya go.

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    For a one off job there are very cheap nibblers,one place that have them are Super Cheap Auto.
    Would be far cheaper than cuting wheels even if it only lasted one job.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cliff Rogers View Post
    Are we talking corrugated iron/custom orb?

    If so, you can rip it.

    Put a cut in it with the tin snips where you want to start, lay a bit of timber along the 'good' of the line you want to 'cut' to & put your foot on it, grab the waste side of the nick your cut & pull upwards.

    It rips like cardboard.

    I use nibblers for the detail work, IE scribing.
    Cliff

    It's trimdeck style. I have seen a similar technique using the back of a handsaw, but more for ripping along the length. I could probably go with your idea for trimming off the damaged edges, but I'm also looking at getting two 4.5/5.0m lengths from a single sheet. The sheets are 10 to 12 metres long.

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    Quote Originally Posted by nrb View Post
    For a one off job there are very cheap nibblers,one place that have them are Super Cheap Auto.
    Would be far cheaper than cuting wheels even if it only lasted one job.
    nrb

    Yes this was what I was thinking. In fact there is an even cheaper option with nibblers which I forgot to mention. Air nibblers. I don't think I have seen one for more than $80 and the majority seem to be around $50. Another possibility as I have an air compressor.

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    Paul,

    If you can afford it or can find one second hand then I recommend metal shears over all the other methods you mention.
    eg: Kwik Snip - Worlds Fastest Cordless Sheet Metal Shears or Excalibur Sheet Metal Shears EXmm6408 | Get Tools Direct

    They're very fast, leave a safe edge like hand shears, and it may not seem like it but you can even use them very easily one handed.

    It may look like it would be hard to rip long lengths of stiff sheeting like Colorbond as you can't exactly bend the sheeting being cut out of the way, but they still cut well while laying over on their side so there no need to bend the sheet out of the way and ripping is a breeze.

    I re-clad the old part of my shed in colour bond using a borrowed set of the excalibur type shears and it made the job a real pleasure.

    Cheers
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    Can't suggest the shears as I have never tried them but I do have the nibbler which works well and no burr - only thing[s] - the cut is 3mm wide and you get a "shipload" of tiny cut bits [they look like cut finger nail clippings] on the floor or ground - I dealt with them by using my strong telescoping magnet and just "swish" above the ground. Take a tip for what it is worth - wrap your magnet in a ziplock bag or clad in heavy Gladwrap otherwise you'll be picking the bits off your magnet for a week.


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    Quote Originally Posted by BobL View Post
    Paul,

    If you can afford it or can find one second hand then I recommend metal shears over all the other methods you mention.
    eg: Kwik Snip - Worlds Fastest Cordless Sheet Metal Shears or Excalibur Sheet Metal Shears EXmm6408 | Get Tools Direct

    They're very fast, leave a safe edge like hand shears, and it may not seem like it but you can even use them very easily one handed.

    It may look like it would be hard to rip long lengths of stiff sheeting like Colorbond as you can't exactly bend the sheeting being cut out of the way, but they still cut well while laying over on their side so there no need to bend the sheet out of the way and ripping is a breeze.

    I re-clad the old part of my shed in colour bond using a borrowed set of the excalibur type shears and it made the job a real pleasure.

    Cheers
    Bob
    Bob

    In a way I wish I hadn't seen that as it is impressive. But... a bit expensive. A quick look on ebay only showed kiddies' stuff with that name.

    I can see why you borrowed the Excalibur. The Kwik Snip is twice the price.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bob38S View Post
    Can't suggest the shears as I have never tried them but I do have the nibbler which works well and no burr - only thing[s] - the cut is 3mm wide and you get a "shipload" of tiny cut bits [they look like cut finger nail clippings] on the floor or ground - I dealt with them by using my strong telescoping magnet and just "swish" above the ground. Take a tip for what it is worth - wrap your magnet in a ziplock bag or clad in heavy Gladwrap otherwise you'll be picking the bits off your magnet for a week.


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    Bob

    Some of them, so I have read, cut a 6mm path. I will remember the tip with the magnet and plastic.

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    The shears are probably better for straight cuts but I have a nibbler attachment for a drill if that's any help. It works pretty well. I can lend you a retractable magnet too. Great for picking up swarf.
    Those were the droids I was looking for.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bushmiller View Post
    Bob

    In a way I wish I hadn't seen that as it is impressive. But... a bit expensive. A quick look on ebay only showed kiddies' stuff with that name.

    I can see why you borrowed the Excalibur. The Kwik Snip is twice the price.

    Regards
    Paul
    I agree it is expensive.

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    Quote Originally Posted by NCArcher View Post
    The shears are probably better for straight cuts but I have a nibbler attachment for a drill if that's any help. It works pretty well. I can lend you a retractable magnet too. Great for picking up swarf.
    Thanks Tony

    I am considering all the options at the moment. It's having a bad effect on my head. I can solve that problem with a stiff drink, but cutting the roofing steel is quite a dilemma. I thought it was relatively clear cut (ooops sorry) until BobL put his twopennyworth in .

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bushmiller View Post
    Thanks Tony

    I am considering all the options at the moment. It's having a bad effect on my head. I can solve that problem with a stiff drink, but cutting the roofing steel is quite a dilemma. I thought it was relatively clear cut (ooops sorry) until BobL put his sixtyninethousandfivehundredpennyworth in .

    Regards
    Paul
    There, I fixed it for you. The Kwik Snip looks great but you'd want to be doing a lot of cutting.
    Those were the droids I was looking for.
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    Try your local hire shop they may have the Kwicsnip or similar available. If you could hire one for a day or so would be your cheapest and best option.

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