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    Nice one Bob, loving the map drawer idea, will bank thatone for my hardrubbish lookout runs. Last I checked the forum you were laying limestone blocks

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    Quote Originally Posted by Burnsy View Post
    Nice one Bob, loving the map drawer idea, will bank thatone for my hardrubbish lookout runs. Last I checked the forum you were laying limestone blocks
    Yeah - Time passes quickly when you are having fun!

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    Default Shed Lighting

    I recently ordered a 1 m strip of LED lighting to try out in my shed. One reason I'm thinking of using it is because I need the lighting below the "stuff stored in the rafters and I can't hang fluoros that low.

    This is what it looks like
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    It's mean for outdoors so it's waterproof and covered in a pliable plastic so it can clearly take some knocks. It is available in 1 or 5 m long strips. It can be cut at every 3 LED and space over a wider area. I reckon I would need 6 x 1m strips in the new shed at at least 4 x 1 m strips in the old shed. It's relatively expensive to buy but very miserly in terms of power use so payback over a few years is possible.

    In terms of light output a 1 m strip it's supposed to be as bright as a 36 W single fluoro but I'm not quite convinced. I will take some measurements. This picture doesn't really show it's performance because I'm aiming the camera direct at the light and the lighting levels are then diddled by the camera.
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    Anyone else have experience with this stuff?
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    use it in the camper trailer & under the 4wd awning works ok
    don't know the out put
    but bright enough to see how cooked the steaks are
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    I did some measurements with a digital lux meter and the light output at 1 m below the LED strip is half the output from the same distance from a single 36 W fluoro tube.

    I also tested 4, 20W compact fluoros and their light output varies by 100%?

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    I am just thinking out loud but can you use these on the walls with deflectors to prevent you looking into the light?

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    My experience with LED's started in the caravan, where they are fine; smallish area, less indirect light needed, largely directed light....and most importantly use far less power. But in the house, pretty useless IMHO, sure they cost less to run, but the light output is less than satisfactory, and nowhere near as good as the new types of fluoro light that are available, both tube type and CFL. The new shed will have all fluoro for bright and almost shadow free lighting.

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    Quote Originally Posted by wun4us View Post
    My experience with LED's started in the caravan, where they are fine; smallish area, less indirect light needed, largely directed light....and most importantly use far less power. But in the house, pretty useless IMHO, sure they cost less to run, but the light output is less than satisfactory, and nowhere near as good as the new types of fluoro light that are available, both tube type and CFL. The new shed will have all fluoro for bright and almost shadow free lighting.
    Unfortunately if I install fluoros in my shed the light will be blocked by stuff that will be stored underneath the lights. If I install fluroros underneath the stuff they will just get in the way. I couldn't have made my shed any higher as my shed height was already as high as the council would allow. I will still probably use LED strips but just have to use more of them. I just got a lead on a better price which makes it a bit less painful

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    Quote Originally Posted by BobL View Post
    Unfortunately if I install fluoros in my shed the light will be blocked by stuff that will be stored underneath the lights. If I install fluroros underneath the stuff they will just get in the way. I couldn't have made my shed any higher as my shed height was already as high as the council would allow. I will still probably use LED strips but just have to use more of them. I just got a lead on a better price which makes it a bit less painful

    What I have in the present small space I have, and which I propose, at least initially, is to run batten fitings along the wall at intevals to be determined, and fit them with CFL globes. So far I have had very good light, and they can be placed directly next to where you want them.

    The first pic is with the lights off and the flash from the camera only, the second is lights on and no flash.
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    Some of you will have noticed I have been back for a while (2 weeks) but the sludge pile at home and work is a bit overwhelming so clearing the backlog is going to take a while before I can continue the shed progress. Last Saturday I went down to the shed for and I had a look around and went into that vacant stare mode for a while - not even knowing where to start - and then my mobile rang and it was my son reminding me that I was going to help him look for a new car. Yesterday I had to work, and this week looks like it's going to be another busy one. I think it's going to take a while to build up momentum again.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BobL View Post
    Some of you will have noticed I have been back for a while (2 weeks) but the sludge pile at home and work is a bit overwhelming so clearing the backlog is going to take a while before I can continue the shed progress. Last Saturday I went down to the shed for and I had a look around and went into that vacant stare mode for a while - not even knowing where to start - and then my mobile rang and it was my son reminding me that I was going to help him look for a new car. Yesterday I had to work, and this week looks like it's going to be another busy one. I think it's going to take a while to build up momentum again.

    First things first Bob. Take it easy and just let yourself slide back into shed mode..it'll happen without too much effort I warrant

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    G'day BobL,

    Shed is looking great - can appreciate your lighting problem - not sure if this may solve your problem or add to it - perhaps you could adapt bits of it which will allow you to put lights where you want them and out of the way when you don't. From the sounds of it certainly is cheaper and the light output is heaps.

    https://www.woodworkforums.com/f44/ru...81/#post298853

    Hope it helps, regards,
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bob38S View Post
    G'day BobL,

    Shed is looking great - can appreciate your lighting problem - not sure if this may solve your problem or add to it - perhaps you could adapt bits of it which will allow you to put lights where you want them and out of the way when you don't. From the sounds of it certainly is cheaper and the light output is heaps.

    https://www.woodworkforums.com/f44/ru...81/#post298853

    Hope it helps, regards,
    Bob
    I saw your running lights when you first posted them and had them mentally stored away as a "highly desirable" item for my new shed. My problem is storage is so tight I will need to make extensive use of the small volume of ceiling space between 2.4 and 2.7m as storage. Any lighting at the 2.7 m level will be blocked by "stuff" stored underneath. This puts any lighting at 2.4 m or lower - fluoros are too deep and unless covered are likely to get damaged.

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    Default External Compressor Enclosure

    Well I have managed to finally clear the back log of stuff after being away for nearly six week back in July/August and can get back to doing some more shed fit out.

    The starting point was a 450 mm wide ledge on a retaining wall and a 15A external socket outside the shed.
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    First step was to cap the top of the retaining wall with 450 mm concrete slabs. There are gaps in between the slabs to allow air to get into the enclosure and any moisture to drain from the enclosure.
    Then build a box from some 30 thick x 900 mm mountain ash lab bench tops I picked up out of a skip at work These bench tops were crudely hacked up into ~1.2 m long segments before being thrown into the skip.
    The box is 1200 long x 510 deep x 900 mm high.
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    The sides sit on 38 x 76 mm galvanised RHS to keep the hardwood out of sitting in any damp. The top is just screwed on with the top edge up against the shed notched to fit the shed colorbond cladding profile and 4 of the inside walls are clad in 50 mm thick foam from an old mattress. The colorbond eas primarily left over scraps from building the shed. I used a few more joins and had to use more tek screws that I would have liked but being behind the shed, aesthetics was a secondary considerations.
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    The box is clad externally with the same colorbond as the shed to increase the sound insulation and waterproof the hardwood.
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    The roof of the enclosure is raised above the box to assist with cooling and to allow a small fan to vent air from inside the enclosure.

    The front doors are made from the same hardwood as the rest of the box and also clad with the same colorbond. Special attention has been made to make all of the gaps overlap at least once either against timber or foam.
    The air intake is via a zigzag pathway at the bottom of the doors.

    Here you can see the baby 2.5HP compressor inside the enclosure. I'm sorry I can't take a better picture than this as the enclosure is very closer to the back fence and I can't get back wide enough to take a shot that shows the whole thing front on.
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    The compressor is attached to my galv pipe reticulated compressed air line inside the shed via a flexible gas hose.
    The box is big enough to (eventually) fit most 80L compressors and at least one type of 100L compressors, provided the handles and wheels are removed.

    Here you can see the fan in the roof of the box. Its a 4.5" 240V fan that pushes 100 CFM and is powered via a standard plug and socket to the power side of the compressor, ie when the compressor restarts the fan also kicks in. The box is ~17CF so the box is well vented while the compressor is running.
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    Noise wise, standing right next to it it's still far from silent but it is about as quiet as the neighbors pool pump which is on the other side of the fence - this pump seems to run for long periods. I will bring home a dB meter from work and make some actual measurements. Inside the shed you can hear a faint rumble in the background so I

    Most of the compressor noise seems to escape via the fan/roof opening. If it was a major problem I was going to install a sound baffle for the fan but I think it is OK as is.

    I have learned a lot from making this enclosure which will come in handy when I make my big DC enclosure.
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    Bob

    I have a shed project about to commence. Actually it has been that way for more than a year , but I also was going down the path of a separate shed for 2 DCs. I hadn't thought about utilising it for a compressor too.

    I am now.

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