Thread: Fletty's new shed WIP ....or is it a retrospective??

Sheds can often be a place of solitude, piece and quiet a place to reflect on life and or escape from the latter. Its always nice tho to have mates drop round for that occasional chatter. Be it wood or metal or discussions on plastic it doesn't really matter. Tools and machines and often silent screams a language so blue from that curse or two. The shed can be big or small often both covered wall to wall and never enough room. A place to meet a place to sit and every now and then a place to actually do some bloody work.

Those (poor long suffering....) people who've been following this thread will know that I've been slowly improving the shed's dust collection and that my remaining issues are the power/cfm limitation of my 2hp DC AND the remaining choke point between the impellor on that DC and the pleated filter. A few weeks ago, I came across a 3hp DC on Gumtree and I offered a lower price ...... and stuck to it.

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The KNOWN issues were that it is 3 phase and the pin felt filter bags reach up to 2900 mm when inflated, which is a problem in a shed whose roof gables from 2100 to 3000! I sealed the deal, picked it up and happily drove it home.

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The seller had installed it on a large Altendorf panel saw and, reading between the lines, it wasn't doing the job. When I disassembled and loaded it, I noted that it had 1 X 125mm inlet and 2 X 100mm

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..... and that the saw had been connected to 1 of the 100mm inlets and that the first fitting beyond the DC was a 100 mm to 80mm reducer ..... no wonder it "wasn't doing the job"!
When I got it home, the first things I did were remove the 3 ph motor and take it to a motor rewinder to get the star point brought out and changed the inlet plate, to give a single 150mm inlet....

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Bringing the the star point out is a fairly simple process but, when they tested the motor after doing that, it was obvious that the bearings were shot. Even so, it only cost $150 to have the motor fixed and made ready to fit a VFD to overcome the 3 phase vs single phase issue.
Then came the time to solve the elephant in the room, how do I fit a 2900mm DC under a 2100mm ceiling? It was at that time that Carbatec ran a sale including pleated filters to suit THEIR DCs. I measured as best I could and bought one for 2 reasons, the first was that I would need 2 pleated filters and that I already had an identical one on my 2hp Carbatec DC and the second reason was that it was cheap ..... and we don't often hear Carbatec and "cheap" in the same sentence. I'm going to have to do some more work on fitting the pleated filters because rather than fit on the outside of the filter ring, they slip inside!
Today I got the motor back and reassembled the beast....

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The new beast needed a name and I have given it one....

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... which, although a mouthful, adequately explains the beast's mongrel background;

• originally made by holyTEC
• sold by GAbbETT
• filters by cARBATEC
• electronics by dYER
• orchestra conducted by FLETT

The next step is to source and fit the VFD.
Unfortunately (?) it won't fit into the existing sound proof space so, like many shed projects, one job leads to 2, leads to 4, leads to 8.......

fletty

Originally Posted by fletty

The new beast needed a name and I have given it one....

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Hmmph. You could at least have called it a GarbaFFlettecyer. After all, I did help you close the door on the dust cabinet on at least two occasions, AND I talked you out the unnecessary exhaust pipe due to massive air leakages from under the corro roof.

Originally Posted by fletty

... which, although a mouthful, adequately explains the beast's mongrel background;

Furthermore, GarbaFFlettecyer gives it significantly more mongrel.


Eh? C'mon man

Would a small shed off the sou west wall be better? Get it out of the shed, for both noise and dust issues.

I'll put hand up for old one dependant on $$$ and if and how I can get it up here.

Originally Posted by FenceFurniture

Eh? C'mon man

Oh awright, awright, I'll change the name BUT, then again, Dave helped too so am I up to GarbaFFleTTecyer... or is that now just being silly

Originally Posted by Pat

Would a small shed off the sou west wall be better? Get it out of the shed, for both noise and dust issues.

The plan (note the lower case 'p' ) is to build an acoustic enclosure on the closed end of the verandah? I'll clad it with matching Colorbond so that the verandah just looks shorter? That will also give me back the interior space.

That looks like a serious sucker

DaveTTC
The Turning Cowboy
Turning Wood Into Art

Originally Posted by fletty

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That 6" connector to the impeller will benefit from either a tapered/flared 6" => 8" connection, or in your case where you are running it into a 90º bend and don want it poking out too far, an inverse Bell mouth hood

Alan

That looks like a good buy. I will be interested to see how the the dust is captured. By that I mean whether it tends to go to just one bag. My DC is almost identical except that it is single phase (3HP) and made by Hare and Forbes. My version tends to direct nearly all the dust to one bag only.

Regards
Paul

Originally Posted by BobL

That 6" connector to the impeller will benefit from either a tapered/flared 6" => 8" connection, or in your case where you are running it into a 90º bend and don want it poking out too far, an inverse Bell mouth hood

Yes, I made the new inlet plate out of 2 thicknesses of plywood so that I could make a smooth continuous bore through the duct and plate, and a bell mouth on the inner face...

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Depending on where I house the DC, if I need to reduce the width even further, I'll mount the 150mm BH even close to the impellor?

fletty

Originally Posted by Bushmiller

Alan

That looks like a good buy. I will be interested to see how the the dust is captured. By that I mean whether it tends to go to just one bag. My DC is almost identical except that it is single phase (3HP) and made by Hare and Forbes. My version tends to direct nearly all the dust to one bag only.

Regards
Paul

Going back to my comment about 1 shed job leading to many more, IF I locate the beast outside the shed that would leave space inside for a cyclone and then the unequal sharing might be a moot point?

Originally Posted by fletty

Oh awright, awright, I'll change the name BUT, then again, Dave helped too so am I up to GarbaFFleTTecyer... or is that now just being silly

Llanfairpwllgwyngyllgogerychwyrndrobwyll-llantysiliogogogoch

And?

(I've stood on that railway platform)

What will be the current draw of the VFD required to drive a 3 hp 3-phase motor?

I think that BobL may have posted about this previously.