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24th September 2020, 08:46 AM #1
French Cleat storage in a new timber stud house build
I'm starting the fit out of a workshop area at the back of a garage in our new house. The house frame is that blue treated pine the use now, not steel frame.
I'm wondering what type of screw I should use to attach support cleats to the framing? I presume I don't need gal screws, but there are so many other types of coating. Which one to choose?Franklin
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30th September 2020, 07:46 PM #2Senior Member
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It shouldn’t matter. Blue pine is kiln dried, and not corrosive. Rather than coating, choose the right size and head for your job...😀
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2nd October 2020, 07:44 AM #3
I'm in the midst of moving at the moment, haven't been online for a few days! Household first before I get around to the workshop. Lots of work...
I figured the best sized screw available at the green shed are ones designated as chipboard screws. Seems like anything with a passivated finish should be ok since like plasterboard screws they are generally designed to attach to pine framing.Franklin
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2nd October 2020, 08:15 AM #4GOLD MEMBER
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Any treated pine (which is what you have)you must use either galvanized, coated, or stainless fasteners, use those gold ones at your peril.
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2nd October 2020, 08:55 AM #5
Kitchen wall cabs are usually fixed to studs with 60mm 8g minimum. Use 40mm to avoid hittin anything in studs if unsure what's inbetween, gal's or stainless as mentioned by riverbuilder for a few more dollars why not. I'm probably gonna get rimmed for this mention but I hung my garage cleats with bugles batten screws so I didn't have to worry about weight. Total overkill but I stupidly use to hang heavy stuff on my cleats just to stir my missus family. Framing guns, tool bags, a few cabs old school aiwa cheapo stereo... Etc
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2nd October 2020, 12:31 PM #6
I just got some 65x10g stainless Macsim decking screws that have a reasonable size counter sunk head that I hadn't see earlier. I'll probably predrill for these just in case even though its pine.
Franklin
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2nd October 2020, 09:22 PM #7Senior Member
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Not so in this case mate: from the Hyne Timbers website FAQs on blue pine: "Will it corrode metal fittings / fasteners? No. Normal steel nails and plates are suitable for use as fixings". You're right for CCA, of course. Link here:http://www.hyne.com.au/framing/t2blue/faqs
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9th October 2020, 12:18 PM #8
I'm doing cleats on facing walls in my new workshop. The bench will be free standing between them, end on to the window.
I've transferred some of my existing holders across from the old house and I've just finished putting up the cleats that will hold my large tool cabinet on the other wall.
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14th October 2020, 07:57 AM #9GOLD MEMBER
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Hi Franklin. Looks like you're moving your workshop into the spare bedroom. Lucky you!
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14th October 2020, 09:31 AM #10
Not quite. The house is a new build and the project home builders were very flexible about floor plans. We deleted one of the ubiquitous modern floor plan media rooms from our build and added it as an extension to the double garage as a workshop instead.
In the old house I used a 1+1/2 car garage as my workshop. This new workshop is closer to just a 3/4 car garage. I'm having trouble fitting stuff in and I'm going to have to cull something (many things?). I'm not sure what yet.
Downsizing........Franklin
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14th October 2020, 11:03 AM #11GOLD MEMBER
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That's pretty handy. Thanks for answering my curiosity. Downsizing - sounds like you will have to decide between favourites
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