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12th June 2012, 11:00 AM #1
New House and New Workshop - Need help with flooring
It's a long way from resembling a workshop but this is the sub floor area of my new house. I'll start working on this space once I get the living areas sorted. I don't have any plans for the space just yet but there is plenty of potential and lots more space than my current 3m x 3m shop. This area is roughly 9m x 4m without the smaller room off to the side.
One concern I have is the floor material. The house is located in a high risk area for termites. Do I go with a concrete floor as opposed to timber or use a wood resistant to termites? I really have no idea here so I'm open to your suggestions.
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12th June 2012, 11:56 PM #2acmegridley Guest
You will have to get the concrete pumped in by the look of your location ,adds a few more hundred to the cost.
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13th June 2012, 12:13 AM #3
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What acreage it seems you have to turn into a "shed". I woulod suggest a concrete floor, and yes a pump would be a "must". Much easier and quicker, and the additional cost will be well spent in the final result.
You will have to consider whether you are going to remove any piers and replace them with steel RSJ's too. If they are left there it could interfere with the layout. The underhouse soil will have to have a well drained buttress wall on the high side of the new floor also.
Just a couple of thoughts. What space though!
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13th June 2012, 04:01 PM #4
Thanks.
The other option is to get a shed but I figure why not use the space under the house and leave the backyard uncluttered.
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13th June 2012, 10:46 PM #5
Definitely the way to go. But consider the concrete. The saving from having to buy a shed will be more than compensated by the fact that you don't need 4 walls and a roof, only sound insulation if you value your marriage, life or anything else dear to you. You will also save on the electrical cost by not having a run to another building.
Not too many of us are fortunate enough to have the facility that you have. Make the most of it andd enjoy it.Last edited by wun4us; 13th June 2012 at 10:47 PM. Reason: add para
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15th June 2012, 01:30 PM #6.
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Great Space.
Definitely concrete. Some of those brick piers look a bit close but a few well placed RSJs should clear the space nicely.
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15th June 2012, 04:00 PM #7
Cheers.
I was thinking of using these Uni-Pier Australia on just the middle piers to give me more room.
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15th June 2012, 09:51 PM #8
Great location. I see that you got the house so the shed would have a view.
If you go concrete think about putting some 50mm pvc tubing under it if you want any power or plumbing coming up in the middle Like Bob did in his shed reno
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15th June 2012, 10:47 PM #9
I would go the concrete way.
Then again I would also put in a shed knowing that the wife will want me to move into the shed. Or was that my dream?
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16th June 2012, 12:26 AM #10
Itwould be besst to have a large uncluttered area in which you can do mostg of youjr work, particularly with longer and wider stock, and you would achieve this by using RSJ's and removing the piers. You could then use Uni-Piers around the outside to allow more room where unimpeded space is not a necessity.
You've got a great foundation for a good workshop; it would be a shame to waste any of it unnecessrily
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16th June 2012, 08:51 AM #11
OK, so with the RSJ's, would they be installed across the bottom of the joists and then the middle piers can be removed? I'm a bit when it comes to this.
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16th June 2012, 11:44 AM #12
Flooring could be fiber boards either MDF or cement fibre with ducting under for dust extraction the footings create the floor level..
I have been into my uncles under house shed although not into woodwork there can be a haven of rooms and wood storage. some hard yakka digging out and leveling.
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17th June 2012, 12:06 AM #13
First you would need to get a structural engineer to calculate the size of the RSJ's, then check with your Council whether any approval is required before proceeding further.
RSJ's would run the same way as the existing bearers. The easiest way to replace the bearers would be with some "acrow" jacks under one at a timr. Lift the area using asubstitute bearer, just enough that the weight is off the existing bearer, remove it and lower the height of the pier(s) by removing bricks sufficient to enable the RSJ to be inserted. When done, lower the jacks and ensure that the weight of the floor has the joists firmly on the RSJ. Then go to the next and repeat. No big mystery, just care, and getting the right size RSJ.
No big mystery, just care and take time to do it.
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17th June 2012, 02:48 AM #14New Member
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Would Recommend Concrete
I would recommend concrete. I have done concrete for 3 years and know that it is well worth your investment to save your structures foundation compared to using wood. It just depends on your investment cost.
Good Luck
Mike
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Concrete above ground level with a concrete spoon drain accross the back and sides below the height of the slab. A retaining wall 500mm from the slab with ag pipe drainage and ventilation.
Oh and make sure they use at least one layer of builders plastic under the concrete.
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