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    The title does not reflect the anticipated build time but the source of the framing timber, the milling section has the story. It's the brothers long awaited dream of a new shed. He has lived there for eight years and works in what you could rightly call a dungeon under his house, dirt floor and all. With the finances looking good and the sister in law on board, it was time. And so with myself and my son in law offering to help or to be honest pretty much taking over, things happened. With no drawn plans at all , decisions were required on the run and when faced with two blokes with loaded nail guns it could be said the pressure was on to put his vision into words or he would get whatever we thought was a fair thing.

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    Photos are 7am, slab check, timber check, radio check, lets go. 1pm lunch, timber pile shrinking. Beer o'clock or as non drinkers say 4.30pm, I'm knackered but in a good way. The small photo? Don't know how to get rid of it! Sister in law was over the moon but a bit deflated when told that the roof doesn't go on until all the "leftover" timber that she could see was in it, around it or on it. Anyway it could get a little drawn out from here on but I'll keep the push going and update the thread as things proceed. For those who may be wondering neither myself or brother are chippies but the son in law is and a registered builder. I can't quote what he thinks of building with hardwood or I would be banned.

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    It's actually good to see someone build a shed with a timber frame instead of an all tin shed. What cladding is going on it?
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    Hi Chis, at this point I believe it will be FC sheeting with timber cover strips, painted to match the house which does have colourbond cladding. Well that was my suggestion. Cladding a timber frame with Colourbond would make it look like every other shed and is hardly a talking point but a workshed that looks like a beach house has got style. Its even going to have a verandah out the front although I don't know about an old rocking chair.

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    IMG_0093.jpgIMG_0094.jpg Well things are happening but not with any great speed. Brother works full time and I drive up and do a bit when I have had a enough of what ever else I'm doing. Next job is to fill in the gable ends and then its all the tie downs including 28 cyclone rods. If all goes well and we get the battens on, it should be ready for a roof sometime late next week. If the son in law was on site it would be ready tomorrow afternoon.

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    Like Chris said good to see a timber shed build. You are really getting stuck in and not wasting time. Some shed builds go on for years. Have you taken any white ant precautions?
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    Hi orraloon, the plastic dampcourse is a termite barrier which is why it is blue instead of the usual black. To my knowledge it is not available at your local hardware stores but from specialist pest control suppliers. Does it work? I suppose time will tell. The slab is proud of the ground 150mm and if kept that way and regularly inspected it isn't hard to keep on top of them. Most places that I have seen with termite problems can be traced to piles of timber stacked against the outside wall for a "short time" or gardens with pine bark up to and even above slab height. I have recently been cleaning up my fathers sheds and I am pretty sure if there is any Dieldrin left in Australia it will be in there but I would never dream of using it.

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    Good to see you got that angle covered. Good housekeeping as you pointed out is just as important at keeping the nasty critters at bay.
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    First time I've ever seen that configuration of roof strutting.What size are the rafters and are they batten screws connecting the struts?
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    Hi Ray, the rafters were milled at 130 x 40 and F17 or better except for the end sets which are lower grade but they will be fully supported by framing so no problems. The roof structure was something I saw on an old Scout hall which was relocated to a motor sport club I'm involved with. It has the same roof span but 100 x 50 rafters. I figure that if it can perform its job for 70 odd years than it is good enough for me. The struts aren't really struts, they are supporting the ceiling joists which in this case aren't doing much besides holding the walls together but I would have no hesitation lining the ceiling. Yes they are batten screws, there is also one driven from the other side plus a couple of framing nails. I know they should be bolted but I honestly don't see what extra this would achieve.

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    Well two weeks in and its roof time . It was a bit of a struggle with the brother breaking down with a recurring shoulder problem but the brother in law stepped up to give a hand and we got there. To be honest without him we wouldn't have got far at all. The roof will be installed by professionals because it was part of the agreement "i'll help with your shed but I am not going to help with the roof", my brother seemed quite happy with that because he didn't want to do it either. For those who are to sure to ask the metal battens are only there to support the insulation blanket. I had them sitting in a pile under my house and thought they could be doing something more useful.

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    I assume the cyclone rods are anchored in the slab with chemset
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    Yes Ray all chemset. The wall plates were also anchored to the slab with batten screws. I was a bit unsure when the son in law suggested this but it works brilliantly and a is lot cheaper than concrete anchor screws or ramset nails. When you look at a modern timber frame before it is clad, with all the tie downs installed, it makes the old "my house was built properly in the fifties not like this rubbish today" argument look pretty silly. Most old houses can be demolished with a hammer and a wreaking bar, but without an angle grinder and a box of cutting discs that shed frame is not coming apart, I don't care how big the hammer is. Imagine trying to remove a sheet of bracing ply.

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    Silly question please...
    Why do you need cyclone proofing on the range up from Nambour, please?
    I can only remember one bad cyclone like event on the sunshine coast at Alexandra Heads in the late 1960's..
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    PS - jealous of the shed!

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    Hi crowie, I don't think there is anywhere in Qld close to the coastline that doesn't have a cyclone rating. The Sunshine Coast has had many close calls over the years and I suppose one day that luck may run out. What I think saves it is Fraser Island, they come down the coast and as they hit the top end of Fraser it seems they veer back out to sea just enough to miss. Probably completely wrong theory but years ago it seemed to happen all the time. Although the cyclone requirements vary with locality everything I have built gets the full treatment because the cost of the rods, anchors and strapping is not great and if the labour to install it is free, why not? That shed isn't at Kureelpa although it's just as high up, from on the roof you can see about forty kilometres to the north so in the event of a big blow there is nothing to slow it down.

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    Thank you Sir for the reply...

    I forgot your original question on lighting...

    I've replaced all the flouro's in my shed with daylight rated LED Panels, brilliant light & cheap to run.

    Got them after seeing another forum members shed with LED Panels.

    The company I bought them from is in Melbourne on ebay; AEG Lighting

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